Latest news from Syria . . .

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wide open spaces creates it's own personalities, this is why the Europeans found the Americans and Russians very similar.
     
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    We chose the wrong side to ally with. The kurds are a problem to turkey...their national interests. We seem not to care, our gov't. Of course what we want are military bases in syria, long term and only the kurds can give us that. We need to add to our hundreds of bases around the world, which aids in hegemony. And of course we are still wanting to get rid of assad, to install another US puppet. These are facts, but only because it has been our mode of operation for a very long time. The US is as predictable as the rising and setting of our star. I don't know why so many would deny this, or ignore it. This is no more in our interest of national security than having a base on mars is. But it is in the interest of our PNAC driven foreign policy which should be self evident, through simple observation since 01.

    We really could not give a rat's arse about the people in that neck of the woods. We keep killing civilians while going after assad for doing it. lol Our foreign policy is filled with such hypocrisy. And our gov't could not care less.
     
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    LOL
    Russians who don't buy Putin's BS "follow the 'cult' of liberalism," huh? And a city far away in time and distance from modern Russia is supposed to tell us about modern Russian thought?

    It seems you only care about your silly Orthodoxy and think that it must govern all things, somehow including how Russians think. How freaking deluded can you get?
     
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    Must be a joke of some kind... I know Americans pretty well and I have many Russian friends. I can say the difference in between is like day and night. Collective vs Individualistic, State vs Private, Dependence vs Independence etc...
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Jenny has no idea what she's talking about. Her worship of Russia is based in myth and English-language propaganda, not reality.
     
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  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess it's too deep for you? Okay let me simplify it for you. The Russian foundation is Constantinople and its Greek Roman culture, rather than Rome and its Frank Latin culture. It's this foundation which has formed their thought processes and which alienates Russia from it's Western counterparts. It doesn't matter whether they are Christians or atheists, it's part of them. Since the West cannot understand them, they want to impose their own standards on them - or kill them - either one.
     
  7. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From a European prospective the Russians during the Soviet Union and Americans seemed similar - and I can see that.
     
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    While Russians may be Greek Orthodox, their founding was more from the Vikings who became the Rus and then stagnated under the Mongol yoke for centuries. I can't speak for the general Russian public, but Peter the Great tried to modernize Russia by making it more western.
    https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-worldhistory/chapter/the-modernization-of-russia/
     
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  9. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All civilizations take and learn from others, and that's how it should be, otherwise we would be swinging on trees. We see Western and especially 'English' influence everywhere, but it doesn't mean other societies want to become like us rather than just being stylish - unless they've been made to feel inferior. Then it becomes dangerous because they adopt the worse tendencies, without having the same civilizational code. I'm thinking of the militarism and racism of Japan before WWII, and the Nazi affiliations of Croatia and Western Ukraine. They were all worse than the German Nazis.

    But you're right of course. Each civilization develops in its own way, so that even though the Russians adopted the religion of the Greek Orthodox which is more spiritual and less rigid than the Western Church, and it became the foundation of their new civilization - (regardless of whether they are Christian or not), they still retained their cultural Scandinavian heritage in that they are more 'communal' minded than others.
     
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    Back to the latest news from Syria. The Russian spokeswoman Zakharova said the ongoing battles between Turkish troops and Kurds in Afrin were fierce. She said that the US along with its Kurdish allies, are openly confronting Syrian government forces.

    "The Americans have sent the Kurds convoys with weapons through the territory of Iraq, provoking Turkey. Turkey, in turn, has continued its military activity against Kurds in the Afrin area in northwestern Syria as part of the Operation Olive Branch,"

    "The occupation of the 55-km zone in the area of al Tanf by the US military persists: It has become a secure zone for remnants of Daesh units in the region," she added, stressing that the US forces have started almost open confrontation with the Syrian army on the eastern banks of the Euphrates river.
     
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    Then you must be seeing the tooth fairy too...
     
  12. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I just read a lot, and have a long term memory. Europeans are the ones who said that Russians oddly enough remind them of Americans. That was during the Soviet Union, and I doubt it changed. You know Goody, I don't pick these things out of the air. When it's my own conclusion from different sources, then I say it.

    Look at it this way. The US and Russia are both empires, and have never been defeated nor occupied, and there's a certain pride that comes with it - and it shows. Also both countries are physically large. and there's a special pride in that too - and it shows. It means you're not dependent on others. The Russians didn't have to struggle and fight others all the time for survival. - they just got up and moved. When Americans wanted land they went Westwards, and when Russians wanted it, they went Eastwards. There's a certain independence to that.

    It's because I related the Russians to us, that I knew they would never bow to the US, no more than we would ever bow to others. If Washington had realized it, things might have been a lot different. To be honest, I couldn't believe the stupidity coming from the so called experts in Washington when they thought Russia was bluffing with Crimea.
     
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    I don't care, I'll still correct:
    The US is a republic ruled by a democracy that even allowed Russian interference in its elections. Putin changes constitution to make a Soviet type of come back. Russia have been occupied many times by many empires, "and states" since the early 1000 AD to 1940s. That pride must be coming from achievements of the Stalinist dicta, if not from the great Romanov kicking Napoleon's ass back to France.

    So Canadians should be much prouder as they are the second largest country in the world after Russian Federation, not the US.

    Nonsense...

    Yeah dude, 20 million Russians gave their lives not in fighting for the survival of their own families, loved ones or their homeland but just to see if there was heaven afterlife... The F word was right here !

    Duuuhhh... Where else could they go when they had stepped foot on eastern shores in the first place? There's only 4 main directions you know?

    Israelis relate themselves to Russians... Interesting...

    Different like what? Like how it was between 40's and early 90's? Who knows, maybe some sneaky snakes want US to adjust to Cold War II because I look in the map and see Georgia, Belarus, Moldova, Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and clients of the 70's Syria and Afghanistan are more or less all under Russian expansionist geopolitical pressure today...

    ''How much longer this keeps going like this with that limited technological and economical backup'' is a very serious question to be answered on the way to Soviet Empire because once you start losing ground there won't be any other chances to start over from where you left because it's going to be "starting from the scratch" this time; something like going back to the "Velikoye Knyazhestvo Moskovskoye" of Turkish "Altin Orda" :)

    I sometimes myself having real hard times to believe the stupidity coming from some posters trying to equalize Russia with the US just to see what kind of a political stance another poster has developed in time. Could have been kinda cool reaction analysis tho... unless of course the troll was getting trolled

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    Here some good reads for you @Jeannette:

    "The New Cold War: Revolutions, Rigged Elections, and Pipeline Politics in the Former Soviet Union" -- Mark McKinnon, 2007.

    "The New Cold War: Putin's Russia and the Threat to the West" -- Edward Lucas, 2008.

    :)
     
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    This piece by Thomas Friedman, if read with an understanding where he comes from and what agendas he ultimately peddles, isn't all that bad. It mentions the obvious: how Syria has become a huge powder keg. It alludes to how each side wants to advance its agenda but hoping to do it at limited cost. And it puts in some perspective the way the issue looks from Israel, which is the place Friedman has most of his contacts and connections.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/the-ultimate-rent-a-war-being-fought-in-syria
    The ultimate rent-a-war being fought in Syria
     
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    Assad concentrates its forces to launch attack against Eastern Ghouta.

     
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    You still believe in faery stories it seems...

    The US is an oligarchy not a democracy.

    my bolding
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...1/The-US-is-an-oligarchy-study-concludes.html
     
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    Yes the "faeriests" ever. The latest researches say look up Boris Yeltsin if you want to have an idea about "American Oligarchy"... Hahaha...
    You might want to find out how it got switched back to Tsardom as well, then all you need to do is typing Putin on google search... Lol...
     
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  19. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hmmm, now that you mentioned Boris Yeltsin:

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    So? Trump had been dealt with as soon as he took his first step in the office. Al Shairat was one good example to give an idea about who's in charge of things when it comes to protect the US interests. Now let me see what you got there as close of an example from Yeltsin's Russia...?
    Your answer to that is the "difference" between the two...
     
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    Ultimately, it seems Project Hammer brought us Boris Yeltsin.
     
  22. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just thought it would be nice for you to know who was behind Yeltsin and the criminal oligarchs in Russia:

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    I've given so many examples for the similarities between Yeltsin and Trump ever since Trump's campaign started to gather attention of Zhirinovski-like trolls in here... So I know what's up with the vodka guy but my question is still unanswered : (
     
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    Oh, I know a lot about Boris Yeltsin. I have many archived documents about various dodgy deals he was involved with back in his day in the Sun - the wild east it was known as at the time - before Vodka pickled his brain. But all that was way before the US became an oligarchy, so colour me confused about why you dropped this into the conversation. Deflection probably, as that seems to be the go to technique around here.

    I have no idea what the rest of your discombobulated post means...
     
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    Just as many other trolls it's pretty normal for you to feel deflected by what you couldn't get as well because you are not programmed to dig in, but rather to review, post, and move on. lol... Boris Yeltsin was the guy who introduced oligarchy to Russia. He was backed by the US. As you pointed out up there nicely, Russia has been the land of oligarchs way before the US, if the US has ever been so at all... So if you want to go deeper into anything related with the US and oligarchy, start from Russia... And discombobulated my ass...

    Get it? Got it? Good?
     

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