Lawyers Say Migrant Children Are Living in 'Traumatic and Dangerous' Conditions at Border Detention

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  1. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They're free to go home anytime. What are the Dems doing to fix this? Nothing.
     
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    The Bible also preaches personal responsibility: "For each one will bear his own load" Galatians 6:5

    Nobody (NOBODY) made these people come here, and nobody (NOBODY) made them bring their children. The parents, and only the parents, are responsible for making that choice.

    Children are separated from their parents every day in this country when a parent is incarcerated for breaking one of our laws. Are you up in arms about that also? Or is your self-righteous indignation reserved for political theater?​

    If you and your fellow leftists cared about these illegal immigrants you would work WITH Trump to fix this problem ---- ALL aspects of this problem ---- instead of fighting him every step of the way.

    Do you think these people would be receiving better care if they were being detained on the Mexican side of the border? Do you think they lived in better condition wherever they came from? No? I don't think so either.

    If you care about this problem ---- and not just posturing ---- go contact your Senators and Representatives and tell them to quit fighting Trump and start working on immigration and asylum reform NOW.
     
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    Wow, you actually have the stones to repeat what the rotund Texas republican congressman said. I admire you courage. What are the Dems going to do to fix a mess Trump deliberately created then lied about? Well, they're appropriating the money immigration et. al. requested.

    As to fixing Trump's deliberate policy of snatching kid from their parents or guardians, well I guess Trump will just have to man up and admit he was r-r-r-r-wrong! OMG, the disgrace. Will he man up and change it? When pigs fly.

    WARNING! Do not debase yourself by repeating the LIE being circulated by Trump and the Trumpets that it was Obama's idea to kidnap kids and retain them indefinitely. A dozen sources show that for what it is - a colossal LIE.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Good of you to show why these people are fleeing those conditions.

    And for once more saying America, "the World's Greatest Country", can do no better....




    With what? The millions of dollars they so obviously do NOT make?

    CHILDREN should "rebuild" or be treated worse than animals in the "World's Greatest Country" ?????






    CHILDREN, poor CHILDREN have "manpower and natural resources " ???? WTF!!!!!


    Those countries may not need our help but CHILDREN we incarcerate at our borders DO.



    So amusing...all the EXCUSES Righties have for treating "precious life" so deplorably....






    I wasn't trolling, I was responding to posts.

    But accusing posters of trolling is a good way to duck and avoid responding to the actual post …:)



    Righty Excuse # 205 for treating "precious lives" worse than animals.

    … and by using excuses, encouraging the abuse.





    :)
    Righty Excuse # 206 for treating "precious lives" worse than animals.

    … and by using excuses, encouraging the abuse.


    Can't address or refute a post? Use a righty's excuses....:)
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This entire post is a rationalization of evil couched in tattered biblical cloth. Paul was speaking of sin and the burden of it. Paul said a lot of things. Paul was not Jesus, nor is he my Savior. Make your argument with Him.
     
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    Unable to rebut or even respond to the heart of my post, you chose instead to hone in on the fact that the quote I shared wasn't specifically from Jesus and so you're going to choose to ignore it? ROFL. I guess I'll take that as a concession of defeat. Attempting to debate with folks like you is certainly tedious.

    I'll only reiterate this part of my previous post: If you care about this problem ---- and not just posturing ---- go contact your Senators and Representatives and tell them to quit fighting Trump and start working on immigration and asylum reform NOW.
     
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    Do us a favor, when you, and that means YOU PERSONALLY, take your own money, rent as many buses as you can, drive to the border and promise to sponsor all the illegals (be financially responsible for their benefits) you bring back to your house, then post it here so we can cheer you on.

    Until you do that, get off your high horse and don't lecture anyone else on what they should do or how they should feel. But you won't be saving any illegals, because being a liberal means you don't have to but everyone else does or they suffer from a lack of humanity.

    You're really not accomplishing anything by preaching to us while doing absolutely nothing yourself. Lead by example, show us your empathy and humanity.
     
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    I would say that's a given. Even here in my country, the news today reports on a couple of 'migrants' who drowned crossing the river. Not a mention of personal responsibility, or what happens to cheats, etc. All criticism reserved for the American Govt.

    There is no chance at all that these people aren't being sacrificed in the name of some sinister master plan.
     
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    Why should they get 'subsidised housing', though? If you can't afford an area, you can't afford it. You need to move somewhere you can afford. You don't get to demand a free or cheap house, just because you like the place. As for 'older women', where are their husbands? Where are their adult children? Why should strangers - who may themselves struggle to support a family - be asked to fix that? Why does being female exempt you from personal responsibility? Those who argue that women don't work because they're raising a family (and therefore haven't been able to save) have no argument, since if a woman has children, then those children are responsible for her if she experiences difficulty - obviously. No adult child would turn their back on their own mother unless that mother was a terrible person. And again, where is her husband? Married women (and that includes widows, interestingly) don't experience anywhere near as much poverty in retirement.
     
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    There's another side to the story, but you've made an important point, a point that people should listen too.

    I personally think that if they build free housing for people they should build it off in some less desirable area. Even if they had to provide a daily bus route back and forth, building it in an area with cheaper real estate would still be cheaper and more economically efficient.
     
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    One conveniently overlooked by the spoiled children who think they have some kind of birthright to live in expensive coastal cities. In my country, they whine about a 'lack of affordable housing'. It's code for "I insist on living in the heart of an expensive coastal city, but can't afford it. Working class families who live in crappy outer suburbs (because it's what they can afford) should fund my lifestyle".
     
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    They are the ones breaking into our country.

    THEIR ANGER IS ALWAYS IN SERVICE OF THE CURRENT NARRATIVE:

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