"Le Pen win is probable. It is the end of days !" - NY Times

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    here are some more matriarchal societies in the animal kingdom

    • Killer Whales. ...
    • Elephants. ...
    • Bonobos. ...
    • Spotted Hyenas. ...
    • Lions. ...
    • Mole Rats. ...
    • Meerkats.
     
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    In fact, they evolve, but not in the good way. The last years was the victory of the salafist. What's a salaf ? It was one of the first companion of Muhammed and so the salafist take for examples the salaf. Salafs murdered tons of people and enslave even more people.

    The islam practiced in the ottoman empire around 1900 is quit different of the one practiced today.
     
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    so how come there are more secular Muslim societies?
     
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    “How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen”
    “Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

    Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.”
    http://www.counterpunch.org/brzezinski.html
     
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    They did it in the US
     
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    I would think that unless there is a huge 'October moment' in the next couple of weeks for her opponent, Le Pen loses bigly on May 7. The early polls aren't even close, showing massive leads for Macron but........they are only polls, LOL. What was almost more intriguing was in whom the French people rejected more so than who they voted for.
     
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    And just think, if it weren't for liberal progressive ideologies over the last couple of decades, we wouldn't be at this point. Progressive ideas are bullyish, they're geared to divide and push away the people that don't think like them, all while you all preach to us about acceptance. It's about time you people realize that you're all in the minority and people don't like your stances. This is what you get.
     
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    Tom speaks for his quickly dying progressive party. A party that is shriveling faster than a wet cotton t-shirt in the hot summer sun.
     
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    French voters like those in the US have had enough of left winger BS and socialists. Both of these independent (outsider) candidates are pro business and will be far less tolerant of Islamic terrorists taking over their country. I favor Le Pen but either would be better for France than the socialist Hollande currently in office. Hope Trump stays out of this though. There should be no tweets. Obama should keep his mouth shut too. Yeah, we know about the Russians, bla, bla, bla.
     
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    You realize that the traditionnal right candidate was kicked out just after the first stage. It's the first time it happens in 50 years of political life in France. Macron at the opposite is relatively close to the former (socialist) president and he will probably win.
     
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    Damn. One of those gut feelings you don't want to be right.
     
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    However many there are, they are more than negated by the burgeoning caliphate
     
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    Fear of the fall of the EU go hand-and-hand with fears of Islam spreading across Europe. It has been quite clearly stated that by those that fear this Islamic expansion seek exiting the EU to stop it. If Le Pen wins then all eyes will next be on Germany this Fall to see if Merkel is the last Great-White-hope for the EU. But if Merkel does bare that weight alone, it'll make Germany a magnet for European Muslims seeking friendlier ground. I'm not sure how well that would go over with natural born German citizens, but the EU itself would be too weak to counter the overall European anti-Islamic vibe. It very well could lead to war before the year is out. But if it would be a war against Islam in general or a closed-door policy war alone isn't clear. Either way it would cause a huge migration of Muslims because they have to live somewhere. 28% of the Global population isn't just going to conveniently disappear. There are 737 million Muslims in Europe by rough estimates, do you think that their all going to walk back to the ME (or where ever) across all of Europe's back yard when all these nations what to close their doors with a "no through traffic" sign at the boarder? Do you have any idea the number of planes each nation would be required to have on stand-by for that kind of exodus?

    It's simply not going to happen. Not only would it be impossible to manage, but there are just no number of destinations that would even accept that kind of in-flux. And this Nationalist agenda doesn't just affect Muslims, it affects anyone with duel-citizenship, according to Le Pen. That mean European Jews with Israeli citizenship would view it as a second holocaust. How well do you think that would go over? Of course it could only lead to war, there are no other options. It's a blanket ban on anyone recognized as a foreigner. International trade markets would be forced to shut down immediately. All of Europe will resemble North Korea by this time next year. World bank, puff, IMF puff, Foreign Aid, puff. I got my popcorn ready, let the games begin.
     
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    A tragically wise post...
     
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    none of these are matriarchal in the least - the burden of protecting the tribe is still on the males. Try again. The females do NOT tell the males how to live.
     
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    They do if you a hyena, or an ant, or a bee; or you're married and want to stay that way.
     
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    lol the reason hyneas are 'matriarchal' is because they are one of the rare times the females are stronger and larger than the males. The males are basically foo foo betas and the females are butch lesbos. It is still a masculine styled culture - patriarchal.
     
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    Okay, I'll take the challenge of that argument and raise you the argument of lions, were the females aren't nearly as powerful as the men but they do all the grocery shopping.
     
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    How we came from Le Pen to Hyena ?
     
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    Good Q and it did not take long! :D
     
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    I don't know exactly. There was apparently a conversation regarding gender being an issue of leadership that I stumbled across comparing dominate sexes in natural wildlife. I just go with the flow.
     
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    You might have convinced a couple of people had you not gone off the deep end.

    The only thing working class westerners heard is, "we promise the other guy is worse. You better trust the people who have done nothing for you for 40 years".

    The only reason globalists have power is corruption. Anyone with a brain knows it. They're either vested in globalism and happy to ignore the corruption, or not vested and getting creamed by it.

    The fact we have to live with that reality on a daily basis is insulting enough.

    The fact globalists have the nerve to talk as if they're in power democratically - makes the average man's blood boil.

    Had y'all just kept your mouths shut, regardless of the uproar, people are so lazy nothing ever would have happened.

    But ultimate control just isn't good enough. You had to have a pseudo intellectual high ground, as well. Actually having the audacity to engage in discussion, insulting the intelligence of anyone not plugged in.

    It will be your undoing.
     
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    ummm - female lions do ALL the work, the males do basically nothing but eat what the females bring for them. I would call lion tribes matricarchal if the males did anything, but they live like kings, LITERALLY kings. They do nothing but eat, bang females, chill while the females do all the work.

    How is that matriarchal ? If anything, lion prides are the most patriarchal since females are the literal slaves.
     
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    Here's a video of a single alpha male getting first dibs on a large animal killed by his harem. Then, two crocs approach and guess who steps up to defend his pride ? The alpha male.

     
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    Seriously? You're from Idaho and I'm from Virginia. I think we both can relate to having no good options (the last US election was a prime example), but that doesn't mean people should just disconnect their brains and rely on emotion (or anger) to decide what to do. Voters that plan to vote should vote wisely; if the choices all stink then they should be demanding better choices, write-in, or stay home until there is something worth supporting. The idea that the rest of the world is also turning into basket-cases during election time helps me not feel so bad about saying "I live in the US and look what we decided to do."

    You're trying to make this an issue about globalism vs nationalism, but that's feeding into agendas promoted by people that cannot and will not ever care about your opinion. The real issue here is how it impacts people. That's all I was talking about. Some people do prefer isolationism and they don't mind shewing off neighbors to achieve that separation. But that also means they have to travel further to do their shopping, and they might come to find out (after putting in that extra travel-time) that once they arrive at the store that the store owner that they told was unwelcome is less inclined to do business with them. "But thanks for buying our gas, we'll sell you more to ride all the way back home empty handed."
     
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