Lean girls vs. "full-figured"?

Where is the poll?

 

Terms such as "full figured" and "thick" are simply the PC version of saying she's fat without actually saying she's fat...

 

Probably - yes!

 

I like them lean and everything in proportion. Big boobs or butt does nothing for me. Give me a girl like Barbra Eden any day.

 

trim, athletic. Even an old man can admire beauty.

 

Different women are built differently. Each can have different physical attributes that stand out. I am not locked into only one, "ideal." What is important is the shape, the curvaceousness-- regardless of its size-- and proportionality. Also, I think it is important to be true to one's body; that is, I often have seen women whose bodies were meant to be voluptuous, but have become unnaturally slim, and found it to make them look less attractive. Such was the case with a girl I knew from high school, who I later ran into, as an adult. I also sometimes notice this on ads for weight loss products (or liposuction; fat freeze body sculpting, etc.), that the, "before," pictures are more appealing than the "after."

 

I dunno. Theres a lot of overlap between healthy and fat that has developed as a result of the modelling industry... can she hike up a mountain without needing to rest every 10 minutes? If so, not fat.

 

I agree about it being natural, & desirable, for women to have a higher proportion of body fat, to muscle, than men. Washboard abs just don't work, on a woman, as an attractive feature. But I would disagree that it has been the modelling industry that has led the change to acceptance of female curves. It was, after all, that industry that was one of the primary reasons the slim ideal was so thoroughly accepted, by women & men alike, in the first place. And, of course, this is how most women have always remained. The modelling industry is finally coming to recognize the reality, that beautiful women come in all sizes (though, "models," are not typically my taste, regardless).

 

How Women's 'Perfect' Body Types Changed Throughout History
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I find the Sophia Loren type of female shape most attractive I married a woman of that type. When I see a woman who is too thin I think “My God woman, eat a cheeseburger!”

Come to think of it, my ideal runs very much like Loren, Mediterranean, black hair, olive skin, and very feisty.

 

Yeah, not to be nitpicky, "girls" are females under the age of 12. "Young lady" is somewhere between 13 and 17 and a woman is 18+. Young lady is usually the preferred address when one does not know the other person's age and/or there is a significant age gap between the speaker and the female he is addressing.

Nobody goes around calling adult men "boys" (unless it's used in a derogatory way toward adult black males and that generally only happens with older people that are dyed-in-the-wool racists and refuse to treat non-white men as their equal).

 

This thread has been sleeping for so long.
Now it has woken.

 

Women with functioning legs, who can walk about on their own.

Women with no legs take such care. They're always complaining that you leave them hanging

 

Meh, they can complain all they want, they don’t have a leg to stand on?

 

Sounds like you are talking of a steak or a Wienerschnitzel!

 

MJ, you are a feminist. This is not a bad thing; I may be something of one, myself. But I do think this critique of yours, when applied generally, is being overly-sensitive. That is, if the term, "girl," is being used for diminution, then it is a valid complaint. But you are, surprisingly, wrong about men, in some circumstances, referring to other men, especially in a group, as, "the boys." This expression goes way back, before my time, but continues to be practiced, to refer to men who are either friends or otherwise a group that is tied together some way. The boys down at work, ...at the bowling alley,...down at the club/lodge, etc. You must have, at some time, seen an old film or tv show, in which a gangster refers to his crew as, "the boys." And the expression "boys night," is still in use, for a night with the guys, which, granted, is the more common term, now used-- how do you feel about the term, "gals?" (Obviously, "dolls," is no longer acceptable).

While I also grant that men & women occupy different places in society, I'll add that no man is likely to take offense, if a woman asks a couple of them, "what are you boys up to, tonight?" And, while this is a feature, specifically, of black culture, calling a tight friend, "my boy," is actually common. It's even turned into the expression, "who's your boy?" asked by the person who is claiming that title, for himself.

I think I understand the idea behind your objection, that it seems as if the speaker, if it is a male, is not taking the women seriously, as adults. But allow me to share a chat I had, some years ago, with a pair of young women. When one shared that they participated with a woman's religious group-- I know, I should have heeded this sign for caution-- and I asked what she, "and the girls," did there, she immediately corrected me that, "actually, we are all women." I did not try to explain that I meant no disrespect by the use of the word, only apologized for my mistake, and we continued our conversation. But since this is a forum for opinions & debate, I will explain to you, that the impression I got, from her feeling the need to make this correction, was not one that made me take them, "more seriously." In fact, rather than a sign of their strength, I interpreted her thin skin as indicating that she had personal, "issues," concerning gender that-- rather than my wanting to find out more about this-- I just wanted to avoid, thinking of her as someone with a great sensitivity, maybe even a chip on her shoulder, & therefore, further conversation as something of a potential minefield. Take from that, what you will.

 

My girlfriend likes it when I occasionally call her "my girl" or "little girl" or even "good girl". She's definitely an adult. Weird, but there we have it.

 

.....and pine to be a young man again...

 

Evidently you've never been to the South....as for some folks can't say I give a flying **** about WHATEVER gets their panties in a knot anymore.

 

Thats not true at all, ime. I've rather commonly heard both men and women refer to eachother (almost always playfully) as boys and girls, usually addressing groups of one or the other. It definitely can be used as an insult as you suggest, but more commonly its in jest, sortof a very light 'ballbusting'.

Thats my experience anyway. But then my experience has been (almost) completely void of the racism so many others claim is rampant. IDK, maybe Im just blessed to always be around better people...

 

I was born and raised in Chicago. I've visited friends there and I went to help after Hurricane Katrina but that's it.

My post wasn't meant to be derogatory at all.

 

Maybe. I've heard women say to one another "boys will be boys" but I've never heard anybody actually address an adult male that way.

Again, my post was not to be derogatory. I posted it in the hope that we can remain mindful of how our use of words can be demeaning despite the non-offensive intent behind them.

 

I've used a variety of terms depending on the situation. Boys, girls, guys, ladies, men, woman. Matter of fact, I refer to my bosses as 'the boys'. One is older than me, one is younger, and no one has ever indicated they were offended.

I work with a very diverse group of people, and no one has indicated offense on the use of 'boys and girls'.