Leftists suggest RACIAL SEGREGATION in New York Times Article

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    My oldest son, wrestling with a 4-year-old’s happy struggles, is trying to clarify how many people can be his best friend.

    Obama’s election has made it clear that I will teach my boys the lesson generations old, one that I for the most part nearly escaped. I will teach them to be cautious, I will teach them suspicion, and I will teach them distrust. Much sooner than I thought I would, I will have to discuss with my boys whether they can truly be friends with black people.

    As against our gauzy national hopes, I will teach my boys to have profound doubts that friendship with black people is possible. When they ask, I will teach my sons that their beautiful hue is a fault line. Spare me platitudes of how we are all the same on the inside. I first have to keep my boys safe, and so I will teach them before the world shows them this particular brand of rending, violent, often fatal betrayal.

    What’s surprising is that I am heartbroken at all. It is only for whites who grew up in such a place that watching Obama is so disorienting. For many weary white people, the ridiculous thing was thinking friendship was possible in the first place. It hurts only if you believed friendship could bridge the racial gorge.

    Of course, the rise of this president has broken bonds on all sides. But for white people the stakes are different. Imagining we can now be friends across this political line is asking us to ignore our safety and that of our children, to abandon personal regard and self-worth. Only black people can cordon off Obama’s political meaning, ignore the “unpleasantness” from a position of safety. His election and the year that has followed have fixed the awful thought in my mind too familiar to white Americans: “You can’t trust these people.”

    For us whites, race has become a proxy not just for politics but also for decency. Black faces are swept together, ominous anxiety behind every chance encounter at the airport or smiling black cashier. If they are not clearly allies, they will seem unsafe to me.
     
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    I feel the same way about redheads. Foe example here are some infamous redheads: Judas Iscariot, Lenin, Lizzie Borden, Squeeky Fromme, Margaret Sanger, and Napoleon. Traitors, Communists, ax murderers, Manson family members, racists, and would be world rulers, you can clearly see why redheads must be avoided.
     
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    some black people that do not trust white people because a a few white peoples actions are doing the same thing some white people are doing because of a few black peoples actions - they are judging an entire race based on false assumptions by nothing but the color of their skin

    the only way to build trust is to take a chance, let's use relationships as an example, if you don't trust your spouse and always think he or she is gonna hurt you via cheating or violence, that is not gonna be a very good relationship even if he\she never would of done either of those things

    and you can't base your trust on people you meat not wanting to be your friend, I am white, if I try to barge in on a group of white people talking wanting to be their friends, odds are most likely I would not fit in... same is true of me doing this to a group of black people talking... or a mixed race group of people talking, they are already friends, that is kinda like falling in love... you can't force it.. just cause you want to be friends is not enough, sometimes people are not looking to bring new friends into their circle, that is just life, we all experience this regardless of race

    I have noticed the younger generation has less issues with race then the older generation, especially those that do not grow up segregated, what you grow up with becomes the norm...

    I can see how Trump concerns some, but blaming trumps actions on all whites is as crazy as blaming all blacks on the actions of a black person
     
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    Segregation forged black communities into moral, productive islands of Americana. It was certainly wrong for mainstream society to segregate them, but the result was (unintentionally to be sure) positive. TPTB saw this, saw blacks becoming collectively stronger than their oppressors, and reversed it by pumping drugs, thug culture and ambiguously racist laws like 'mandatory minimums.'

    I can't say that I would blame any black community that instituted self-segregation, so long as they didnt violate anyones rights in the process.
     
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    Wow, that is some bad feelings, bad stuff going on there. I feel lucky to be living here in the South, where you might think that sort of thinking would be common, that is if you listen to a faux liberal democrat, but isn't. So you must be from the West or North, in order for you to think in such a manner.

    I think I need to stay here in the South where we don't have but a relative few who would think as you do. And they are generally high school dropouts who didn't have enough intellect to graduate from high school.
     
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    I think the OP's understanding of the word segregation is lacking.
     
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    very dissapointing that the NY Times would publish this.

    would they publish a similar opinion peace doubting whether Muslims can be friends with Jews?
     
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    This is so sad. I can't believe someone would blame Trump for teaching their children hate.
     
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    guy never suggested racial segregation.
     
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    Funny .. my kids see the opposite. They tend to think that welfare abuse, divorce, addictions, etc are 'white' problems. Since they're half white, I tell them they're semi-self-haytrz.
     
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    You have kind of captured the whole thing. I want this story told since it happened to me in the Army in Germany.
    I held the job of company clerk in an infantry battalion. Now in what we called LINE companies, the clerk there had a lot more simple mission than i had. His was to help the unit commander and the unit first sergeant handle all the work daily into and out of the company. My mission was greater yet since I was in the Headquarters company and we were over all the rest of the army companies. My commander handled far more than infantry, he handled all the communications, the supply, the doctors, the tanks assigned to his unit, the nuclear weapons and lots more. He had his hands full. He had to have me as his staff clerk or he would not get his duties handled.

    He was black. But you could not tell it unless you really stood and stared at him. He had blue eyes. He was no darker than having slightly olive skin. Easily he passed for white.I first was his jeep driver and during that time, I accepted him as white. I got my job when his then clerk got mouthy over blacks. And he was fired that day. The former clerk worked slow and was not good at the job. I made such an improvement I was told I would soon be an E-5. It was really a tough job. And you were on duty from virtually sun up to dark. Actually many days I was still working when it was dark.

    I lived far better than did the men in the company and almost all of them outranked me. My commander kept me out of the "dirty duty jobs" and the reason was he needed me 24/7 in effect. He refused to allow me to be on guard duty nor serve in the kitchen police jobs.

    My story involved some of the blacks in the unit. For months and months, the blacks treated me very well. When i was close to departing the unit, a number of them gathered outside my office and I checked to see what was going on outside. I was virtually assaulted. nobody hit me, but for a time, it seemed they were going to hospitalize me if they could. I knew how to handle myself and it ended up they took off screaming and shouting. I did not start a thing.

    I had a serious problem with one white soldier and it ended up I beat the hell out of him. But the blacks were screaming over things I could not solve and did not solve.
     
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    I know, those thinking blacks are on welfare and get divorces and have addictions are full of it, eh?

    Why do half black boys accept the are blacks as did Obama?
     
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    You misunderstand. I don't live in America. Where I live, our 'worst' socio-economic types are white. Our most depressed and awful areas, full of govt housing and highly dysfunctional people and criminals, are almost all white.

    Meantime, my kids say they have no feelings about it one way or the other. To them, asking such a question is like asking a blonde if she connects more with that dark streak of hair she has at the back of her neck, or the much lighter hair over her forehead. It's absurd, to their ears. That's probably because we raised them to be colourblind, and have never shown allegiance to a particular racial group.

    I suspect that those half white kids who regard themselves as strictly black, have been raised to think that way by a racist parent.
     
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    I hate when people lie in the titles of their threads.

    A single leftist - not "leftists" wrote the story. Get it f**king right.
     
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    If you are from Uzbekistan, you are not understanding Americans much at all.

    We whites never would need to discuss race at all. But blacks here make sure it is top news. The first thing out of our democrats party in the news is black this and black that. We read it and respond to it as best as can those accused falsely can.

    I so seldom see a black, for me it is not the problem it is in our dense cities. There the crimes by blacks makes it clear I am happy not to live in such cities. Democrats by and large inhabit the cities of this country.
     
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    Lizzie Borden was a bad person to include. She never was convicted.

    Frankly, you dismiss the black person's problems and the white person's problems with our blacks. Mind you, we have millions of awesome blacks and they need praise. But to assume all blacks are awesome, sorry but crime figures and other social figures won't allow me to move them to that bar. They need to earn a higher bar. And why not use the model used by the Japanese? Worked very well for them.
     
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    The modern left is a regressive and dated philosophy of failure.
     
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    Because there is no "privilege" in claiming that they are White.
     
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    The O.P. article title... Can My Children Be Friends With White People? ...is a friggin' LIE!
    Somewhere near the start of the article, the racist author says...
    Then, the racist goes on to say (lie)...
    But then, the racist continues...
    ...and...
    So, when the racist author asks (in the racist article title)...Can My Children Be Friends With White People?...what he's really asking is...Can My Children Be Friends With Trump Supporting and/or Conservative White People?

    And what he goes on to say in the article, actually, is that black people can be friends with White people just as long as they think the same racist way that the racist author thinks (ie...liberal White people ONLY) and don't say ANYTHING that he would disagree with when it comes to "the discussion on race" and anything else that is political as well.

    And this racist liberal author is one of many, MANY racist "leftists" that say and believe the same thing.
     
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    "Americana"?
     
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    Oh yeah, Riiiigggght!

    All the problems of the black "community" were not only causes by White people but are perpetuated by White people.

    Don't you lib/progs EVER take any accountability for the actions of you and/or your ilk?

    Then I'm sure you wouldn't blame the White people who would want to insulate and segregate themselves from all that, right?
     
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    Segregation means whites & blacks go to different schools, take different public transportation, use different bathrooms and water fountains.

    the author of this article never suggested this
     
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    Who said it did?
     

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