Legal to shoot cops if car search is "illegal"?

what percent of cops do you believe are criminals?

 

That’s not a fourth option, it’s just a rationalisation of a belief that your country is fundamentally corrupt without actually admitting it. If you truly believe that is the common, mainstream behaviour of law enforcement across the USA, you’re describing massive institutional corruption which requires addressing imminently. You don’t address such a serious issue by moaning about it on forums and you don’t deal with it by murdering police officers because they want to search your car.

 

Higher than the percentage of CCW permit holders who are criminals. Even 1% is too much.

 

Of course its a fourth option, you just don't like it. There is massive institutional corruption in Law Enforcement. Look up civil asset forfeiture, and the penalties (none) cops have faced for shooting or killing innocent people. Consider the attitude that cops should "come home safely" regardless of the cost to the community, or the us-versus-them attitude.

And what do you propose people should do? What happens when a cop murders an innocent person and the family works through the system? The cops go free, and the family is harassed.

Check into the case of 7 year old Aiyana Jones, shot in the head by a cop while she was sleeping, read about the harassment of the family and the penalty applied to the cop (none).

Read about the Phonesavanh family, whose baby was severely injured in a botched raid (wrong address), the father was injured also. The cops were let off free, the family harassed, in the court case the lawyers claimed the parents were at fault for the cop throwing a flash bang into the baby crib.

Read about the shooting of John Crawford, killed by cop while in a Wal Mart, even though the State Attorney concluded Crawford was completely innocent and had done absolutely nothing wrong, the killer cop was not held accountable. But the Crawford family was harassed by the cops, the cops trying to find some reason to blame Crawford for his own murder.

Different states, different Law Enforcement Departments, all with the same result - victims harassed, cops get away with murder.

If you went into a dark stairwell and fired a handgun into the dark, killing an innocent person, you would go to prison. NY killer cop Peter Liang did just that and did not go to prison, he got probation and community service.

And at a higher level of corruption, read about the Wisconsin "John Doe" investigation and the abuses people suffered at the hands of the state attorney and the cops.

The system is broken, the corruption is systemic.

 

what do you suggest people do, shoot police?

 

How is what you described not my first option of the country being fundamentally corrupt? My recommendation remains leaving that country for somewhere more civilised though if you feel the system can be fixed, it would be admirable to remain and help put in the work to do so.

 

Not true. There are numerous exceptions to needing a warrant when dealing with cars. One is when you see contraband in the car and arrest the occupants. Another is inventorying the contents of a car that's being towed and impounded.

If the officer has no grounds to search the car without a warrant he can ask for consent to search. The driver of the car can refuse to consent and there would be no search.