Lessons for Australian republicans

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  1. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Its a sad reflection on the Australian educational system that too many people don't know what is in their own 1901 Constitution. Example: didn't politicians just recently make a complete mockery of the 1901 Australian Constitution by having a postal vote referendum on gay marriage? There is no act or section within the Australian 1901 Australian Constitution which states that a postal vote referendum is a legal referendum under the Australian 1901 Australian Constitution.

    Did it really surprise anyone with a double digit IQ that self-serving politicians used Port Arthur to disarm their entire population and create new gun laws without the population even having a vote? LOL

    Isn't this thread about how Governments and politicians manipulate populations for their own benefits, and is there a better alternative - not gun control?
     
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    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Sad fact is that most people who have tried to read our constitution fall asleep about the third paragraph. Best bloody cure for insomnia on the planet
     
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    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    First does it say we cannot have a postal referendum? Second ,when was the postal referendum, I remember a postal survey ( plebiscite) being done but I must have missed the referendum, I'm not as up to speed on Australian politics as you.

    https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia..._Library/pubs/BriefingBook45p/SameSexMarriage
     
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    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    Oh my god, were we disarmed, bugger why wasn't I told .Thank god for you CD or I wouldn't have known. So besides spreading propaganda for ISIS your also a spokesperson for the NRA too.
     
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    culldav Well-Known Member

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    They changed the Constitutional meaning and definition of marriage with a survey, and you want to "big note" yourself over semantics. Bravo!!
     
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    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    You were ranting and raving about how unconstitutional it was. Semantics is pretty important when you are accusing them of unconstitutional behaviour when in fact what you said was not correct.

    You also have been ranting and raving about the government not consulting the people and making decisions now you're on your high horse about them asking. It appears you gripe for the sake of gripping.
     
  8. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    So you don't actually know what normalised data is? That's a shame. Try googling it?
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hahhah I work with data for a living. Have done so for over 30 years....yeah...you got me. let me guess youre a wikipedia math warrior now. Well....good for you. Pages later we are still waiting from the person who posted the data to answer questions about its derivation. A simple question was all I asked. Lefties lose their minds at the audacity of their data even being questioned much less shown invalid.
    Either answer the question or piss off. It was a valid on point question, if you guys cant handle it try facebook politics. Its more user friendly for the fact avoiding types.
     
  10. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    They pay you? Wow, well done.

    Still no definition for normalised data? That's a shame. It's like you were talking drivel or something...
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    That's your third dodge. Why are you incapable of supporting your own argument? What's normalised data?
     
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    I think the problem civilizations have as a whole is that people reach a point of happiness that they don't pay attention to much of anything but their own happiness. They stop learning, stop listening, stop paying attention, and stop voting. So eventually all you have voting are people that are not happy and people that are not happy feel they need something to make them happy. When people start voting for what makes them happy instead of what is best for them and the country, it provides a place for a person to exploit and stay in office for decades.

    In the US at least, the office of a Senator, Representative, or President was not intended as a position to make profitable money from. It was intended as a means to represent your state, while giving you something to help being away from your normal job. With all of the perks and the base pay voting people have allowed politicians to give to themselves, those positions have turned into something to aspire to for a living, instead of being a short public service it was meant to be.

    People need to wake up and realize what has happened and make attempts to correct the problem, but people are so out of touch we can't even get term limits for politicians.During the last Presidential election only about 58 percent of the voting populace voted....which is terrible. To be honest though, I don't want people to vote if they have no clue and in America's silos of political thought today not many have a clue or care to have a clue.

    One rule I have told my teenager about a position on anything is this.....I don't care who you vote for or what you vote for, but if someone challenges you, you better be able to defend your position with logical thought and not simply.....because they have this physical attribute. We'll see how well he learned that lesson in a few more years.
     
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    No what this is is the equivalent of going into a restruant throwing the menu on the floor and accusing everyone, on no evidence, of wrecking the recipe.

    I provided the original research paper, peer reviewed, in fact I supplied more than one. You made some vague allegations and demanded I critique my own paper to prove it is wrong. You are the one making a claim, it is up to you to validate it
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats a false statement. This was my factual post in its entirety.
    "Do you mean based on normalized data?"
    This was in response to your post
    "Well why is our levels of reported rape not higher than the USA?"

    As any reader with a correctly functioning brain can see, my question was totally valid in asking and not designed in any way to troll. Its a valid non partisan question to ask based directly on your post. You either did or you didnt. Its your statement not mine. Im simply asking about the derivation of your data as any normal person looking for valid data would.
     
  15. Reiver

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    Loved the normalised data blag though! Very inventive in saying naff all.
     
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