-Let It Be Known What Atheism Truly Is-

Yes, the fear of the Lord keeps me from doing evil deeds. No different than a father to his child, the child in fear of his father for the most part stays out of trouble. When the child does get into trouble, the father punishes the child. Same principal. What's your point? I also do it for the sheer sake of doing good, and for love.

 

No, not the father. A pink Rhino moving at the speed of light. And if this pink Rhino were too vanish, you would start doing evil deeds correct?

 

That's absurd. If you think you are free to behave in whatever depraved manner that comes to mind without threat of punishment or reward you don't need a god; you need a cop, or a cell perhaps.

Remember, being good means doing the right thing, when you know nobody is looking.

 

Guilt is the acknowledgment of wrong doing. One cannot feel guilty unless they have partaken in wrong doings. As long as the pleasure is of good will (love) there is nothing wrong with it, that's why He made them. Of course one could exceed such pleasures, such as eating chocolate all the time, becoming 300+ pounds. What happens to the body is a result of lack of discipline, and a non-stop infatuation or love for the chocolate gluttony. It goes along with live by the sword die by the sword, the sword here is the chocolate or gluttony.

Live by lying, die by lies, hang around those who lie, your probably being lied to. In essence, we are who we associate with.

 

Your ignorance is remarkable. The footage and images "lost"? No.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11j.html
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a12/a12j.html
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a13/a13j.html
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/a14j.html
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15j.html
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16j.html
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/a17j.html

Pick a mission, check out the "Image Library" (e.g. for Apollo 11 http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/images11.html ), the "Video and Movies" (A11 http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/video11.html ), "Mission Audio" (A11 http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11MissionAudio.html ), and lots more besides.

I mean, good grief. Try doing even the most rudimentary research before you shoot your ignorant mouth off...

 

If you want to discuss moronic and easily refuted bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy conspiracy theories, please do so down in the loony bin conspiracy forum.

 

The most and biggest liars I have encountered in my 62 years on this planet have been bible thumping religious phonies. The God of the Jewish Bible was no doubt created by phony power brokers who were trying to guilt people into giving them a percentage of their wealth while they sat perched on their lofty thrones. Their creation was a self centered, greedy, rathful ******** of a God. As a Supreme being, this god leaves a lot to be desired.

 

When the pleasure comes at the expense of others, or is indulged in to escape guilt, I'd say the answer is obvious.

What kind of moron would want people to feel no guilt over the abuse of pleasure?

That's only a given to people who are blissfully ignorant about the human condition.

You're kidding yourself.

That's not what it takes for a true Christian to go apostate.

True Christians start out as sinners who first realize they're not what they should be, and second become resolved that they'll endure anything in the hope of finding a cure for that disease. You haven't gotten past step one, most likely because you were taught you were a sinner rather than realizing it.

Perhaps not coincidentally, Nero, one of the most despicable miscreants ever to tread the Earth, had the same god.

You wouldn't know what the right thing is without God, Who is always looking.

 

Speak for yourself, theist. Your attempt to impose your religious beliefs upon others is apparent.

Here, read this front of a mirror:

You see, it is your problem that you can't understand right from wrong without running to your imaginary sky fairy for help.

 

Humans are empathic animals with a very advanced societal structure even in primitive societies, by comparison to any other great ape, so of course humans tend to largely do the right thing barring intervention from ideologies which cause humans to break from that several of these were religious and some not. It's odd how many of us would toss our own children to be tortured for a minor offense for one hour and this god using the Christian and Muslim versions would do so for eternity (the Jewish Tradition oddly never had hell for people so they tend to be cool with me on that point) ... clearly this god concept is highly immoral just on that one count. But then there is the genocides, horrors, intolerance, support of slavery and so forth in the entire Bible so even the Jewish Tradition loses me there.

Lets see what makes me do good things over bad things lets see I don't want to hurt people, make them feel bad, take their stuff and harm society since I live with billions of other humans and yes there is also going to jail or prison in some cases which would takes years of my life and toss it away as effectively being under my control as a citizen which would be also unpleasant.

 

No one has nailed down the correct god, if there is one.
Or has proven this god.
Perhaps Ghandi had the correct god.
But this proves the earth isn't flat.

 

Of course biblical patriarchs got drunk and some had sex with their own daughter. Albeit, they were to inebriated to remember it.
So much for atheists are that for drunkedness. Biblical heroes got drunk also. Maybe atheists just take after biblical characters.

 

It would be easier to do away with sin in the world. Then it would be gone and no soaking up would be needed. Which obviously has failed miserably. If one uses the christian terms for sin.

 

Lost? LOL. You think there is a group recruiting and retaining atheists?

 

If Gandhi's Hinduism with its wretched caste system is correct, I'm Mary Poppins..

 

a figment of your bigotry-fueled imagination, obviously.

It certainly would be my problem if I did anything like that. Things being what they are, your admonition is as worthless as the rest of your posts.

 

The OP is an example of your hatred.
You think all atheists or the reason to be an atheist is for some bad stuff. That is pure hatred.

 

Self righteous no nothings won't be in heaven either. They will be denied for false preaching.

 

Christians just disbelieve in one less God then Atheists

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct...i4v22H1ObTzujNKuaQoRVMuw&ust=1483588390043923

More no nothing dribble.
It's why no one can take you seriously and you are a bad spokesperson for God. You very well could be denied access to him.

 

Well, nothing you mentioned (except perhaps the ambiguous and subjective "evil deeds") is at the expense of others, and there would be no guilt to escape from if it were not for uptight religious sheep shaming people for having a good time.

The label of "abuse", according to an ancient, repressed society that stoned people to death for the slightest misdeed (now THAT'S abuse), should not concern people anymore than that society's primitive belief that a bat is a bird.

Ah, so you agree that it's a given then.

 

If Christianity with its wretched misogyny is correct, I'm Mary Poppins..

 

They have all the freedom to do what the theist call sins,
unfortunately killing is one of those.

 

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Be that as it may, the relevance to anything I said is a complete mystery.

Obviously not. If I did, I'd be as ignorant about the human condition as you are.

 

I don't see any misogyny here-
Paul said- "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28 )
And Jesus went around rescuing naughty girls from stone-throwing fundy mobs-

1- "On yer bikes, she's with me!"
2- "Hold your head up baby!"
3- "Thanks JC, shall we go for a pizza?"



"Prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you!" (Matt 21:31)



THE WOMAN AT THE WELL
"Huh, i'll never see the Messiah stuck out here in this village miles from the bright lights of Jerusalem" she said as a tear rolled down her cheek, "When i die that's it, nobody'll remember me or even know I existed, and he wouldn't want to talk to a nobody like me anyway..".
The man gently brushed away her tear with his fingertips, lifted her chin, gazed straight into her eyes and softly replied with a smile:- "I'm him. He's talking to you now.." (John 4:26)