Let me as a procedural question about the 2021 inauguration?

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Reasonablerob, Nov 20, 2020.

  1. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    Many states have certified and have state laws requiring they vote for the winning ticket. A death at the top of the ticket does not change the electors and their legal requirements.
     
  2. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Please "as" some more!!!!
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Again, this is a brazen untruth.

    Harris is indeed on the ticket, she just won, duh. Do you really think you can brazenly, and I mean, BRAZENLY, write patent untruths here and not get called out for it?

    And the 20th amendment clearly says that should the president-elect die, the vice-president elect becomes the president-elect. It's that simple.

    And yes, in spite of your closing your eyes and acting like my daugher did when she was 4 years old, Joe Biden IS the president-elect. He has won enough states to amass 306 electoral votes, regardless whether sore loser Donald Trump wants to concede the election and show some human grace, or not. History will move right along without his sorry ass. And of course, the Republican Party will suffer lasting damage from this drama-llama crap for years to come. No one will ever again trust a Republican about anything. I sure as hell don't and will never again do so.

    Seriously, educate yourself some more, for the first round of "education" obviously did not help.

    My suggestion: dis-enroll from the course "Butthurt 404" and enroll in "electoral politics 101". That may sooth some of your inner aches.
     
  4. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not what it details in section 3, if one has a bit of comprehension, and took Civics 101, one would clearly realize Sleepy Joe and Kameltoe have not been elected yet and will not be until that is decided by the EC.

    Popular vote is not the winning vote in the U.S., who wins is decided by the EC.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You may be right about the 20th, but your use of "Kameltoe" completely destroys your credibility and makes you sound like a ten year old.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah but using the term Trumpette or Trumper is intelligent sounding.

    Yup you just have to love it when the shoe is on the other foot, but get used to it, you may have 4 years of hearing terms like Sleepy Joe and Kameltoe coming soon to a forum near you.

    However look at the brighter side, at least this time she didn't blow getting picked for Sleepy Joe's VP choice.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He is not president elect until the electors vote.

    It's that simple so I am not sure why you are struggling.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't move anything, my argument has been the same. Harris will not become president until Biden is the president elect which he isn't yet.

    This is not rocket science here.
     
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    (original)late Banned

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    Republicans have been in a war against America since Newt.
     
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    (original)late Banned

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    Using the letter of the law to defeat the spirit of a law is usually impermissible.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People said he was president-elect and I corrected them.

    The question was asked if Biden died tonight would Harris become president.

    People answered yes and I corrected them

    Not sure what you are trolling on about.

    It wasn't my intention to make so many leftys look stupid but they were wrong.
     
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    It's not a law it's the Constitution, if you don't like that get it amended.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually they can't tell them how to vote.

    They can certainly punish them if they vote outside of the law.

    As far as reversing an electors vote it has never been done, even when some of Hillary's flipped.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trust me, you don't need to do that.
     
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    I can tell you this much - neither Donnie Dipshit nor Mike "The Gimp" Pence will be sworn in on January 20, 2021.

    Feel educated yet?
     
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    WRONG!!!

    several Faithless Electors had their votes reversed in 2016.

    why do you keep stating the opposite?

    is this propaganda or something?
     
  17. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    It has been done before.

    Never has an elector ever flipped parties when becoming a faithless elector anyways.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i keep telling him that Faithless Electors had their votes flipped in 2016 but he keeps saying this anyways.

    i wonder why
     
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    I think he's using this for therapy or something, because his content is the kind of stuff they usually hear people say at sanitariums and the like.
     
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    Nice, when facts run out just fall back on personal insults. How typical.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    after Dec 13 she officially becomes Vice-President elect.

    she would take over for Biden, yes.

    if Biden dies before then?

    i have no idea.

    its not even addressed legally.

    is it?
     
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    I don't use those terms. I do use Trumpster, but only because a few Trumpsters have told me that they don't find that at all offensive.

    So, false equivalence here. I stand by my assessment of calling the VP-elect "Kameltoe" being childish.
     
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    It is my understanding that only after Biden and Harris have been elected by way of the votes of the electoral college, will they officially become the President and VP elect. So, if he becomes incapacitated BEFORE that happens, then it goes to congress. If he becomes incapacitated AFTER, then the VP elect becomes President elect. I don't know who becomes the VP at that point.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why does it go to congress if Biden dies before Dec 13?

    i dont see that in any law
     
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    It would be up to the Electors.
    State law may not make it the most clear what vote Electors should cast at that point.

    I would imagine some of the Electors might decide independently on their own, and some of them would look to guidance from their State or Party.
    Some of them might be subject to prosecution from their state for not being "faithful", if they make a decision that their the authorities in their state are not happy with.

    In most cases, there would probably be an emergency session of the state legislature, and they would tell their Electors who to vote for.
    At that point it would be too late to hold a popular election in the states.

    In most cases, the Vice Presidential candidate would probably then get elected to President, but there are some good reasons to think that would not necessarily so easily automatically happen in this case. They might choose to throw in someone new for President at the last moment, like Hillary or Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (the House Speaker is third in line to assume the presidency, if the President and Vice President die), or Elizabeth Warren, who was the third most popular candidate for Democratic nominee.
     
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