Let us all poop in the bushes instead of in the water. The sea, our primary food source, will thank

In Michigan they are handling human waste in to ways relevant to this discussion. The least expensive way is to inject it into the soil raw. This buries the manure deep in the field using the same equipment that is used to inject animal manures deep into the ground rather than spreading it. The other process makes milorganite that you can buy in bags retail.

 

What good does the fertilizing effect do if it is buried below the root system?

Oops. Your second post answered me once I saw it.

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DL

 

What about the bushes? How are they going to feel about this change of venue?

 

Well, earthworms are very good at moving nutrients in the soil and root zone my go deeper than you think. Two to five feet is considered standard. Corn is about five feet. I think the main problem with humanure is the ick factor. But when you consider the soil conditioning value it may be worth it. But it would be amiss not to consider the safety factor. Raw sewage can bring all kinds of nastiness, cholera comes to mind.

 

Raw sewage is one thing. Most manure is aged and processed to some extent and I would imagine some aging of our sewage might also need some kind of processing or aging.

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DL

 

I haven't used people, but horse manure works pretty well for me.

 

Hot composting would take care of most of the pathogens.

 

I think so as well. Heat, we have and then some. I see just about anything as better than dumping our refuse into our precious oceans and other waterways. We have enough dead zones in our oceans.

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DL

 

And when you consider we use pig, horse, cow, sheep, rabbit, goat, chicken, and alpaca would human be such a large step. They have been using human manure in China for centuries. Besides our soils are deteriorating at an alarming rate. We have to put something back. I have been studying soils and plants for a long time.

 

And have reached the right and intelligent POV as to what we should do.

Now if only the rest of the world would get on board, we could start cleaning up what we are to leave to the next generations.

It seems that we are not only passing our debts up the line, we are also passing our mess up so as to create hardships for our children and grand children.

Our ancestors would be ashamed of us and so will our future generations.

Our generation has made the greatest leaps in science and most of the enjoyable parts of life, but we have also created the worst messes possible for the future.

The ancient Egyptians used to make their plan for seven future generations.

We think only of ourselves. Shame on us.

I wonder what happened to our attitude of leaving things better than what we found.

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DL

 

Our waste doesn't go to the sea. It goes to the dump. Treated water goes out. In zone cases it goes back to the water supply.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsn...ater-recycling-begins-in-wichita-falls-texas/

Piling up around our bushes would present an enormous health hazard that would send us into the third world.

 

Thanks for this.

This link seems to have a different view of where a lot of our waste ends up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Pacific_Gyre

Please follow the link to Cowspiracy's longer version to see what other damage we are doing to our water systems, includding the dead zones we are creating.

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DL

 

Most manures are composted and hot composting kills most of the bad bacteria in animal manures. The pile reaches temps up to 170 degrees f. But it is usually about 120 to 150 degrees. I just don't know if this is hot enough to kill the nasties in human manure. It seems that most animal manures don't cross contaminate. You can spread horse manure on a cattle field or goat pasture with no problems. But if you spread horse manure on horse pastures you spread horse disease. You can spread different manures on different pastures as long as it is not manure from the same species. So, what temps kill human nasties and if these nasties will end up in the groundwater. Don't know.

 

Neither do I, but I do know that the pharma we flush to the sea and other waterways definitely has a negative effect on wildlife.

I E. In the great lakes and St. Laurence river, the gender of some species is being changed and driving them to extinction.

If we do not kill the nasties, and only recycle them through the food chain, they will return to bite us you know where.

We have to try to leave things better than we found them or we will all be walking through filth.

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DL