Let's debunk what CO2 does. Let's also explain what it does not do.

Well you solved the wall so solve plants the same way.

 

Mate I post in response to what is posted. You put forth a scientifically posed post and I will answer in kind

 

No except if you want to look truly informed and erudite then that is what is needed

And you know what the report contains from what? Looking at the title? What are you afraid of?

 

Why since you think you are the climate expert, .... why did the US warming period take place in the 1930s and come to a halt? Thus far, never resumed?

 

Bowerbird, I have studied the IPCC report. What is new since I studied it fully around 1998?

Why doesn't Dr. Lindzen or Dr. Curry endorse the report?

 

Bowerbird, perhaps you will explain why the FAA that deals with weather daily does not mention global climate nor climate warming?

https://www.faa.gov/quick_reference/#c

 

You tried this on the other thread - now just because someone somewhere made a graph it does not mean it is either real or factual and since THIS graph came from "Natual News" there is a high probability it was actually made by the authors three year old child playing with crayons

I did some more googling and came across this

https://climate.dot.gov/about/overview/impacts.html

Which talks of why the USA had some years that were recorded as warmer - but remember the USA is not the entire planet - it is only around 2%. So when we talk GLOBAL warming we are talking about what is happening to the entire planet

 

Because weather is not climate.

I am not going to describe the difference AGAIN but please GOOGLE what climate actually IS

 

Your source/s for that claim?

 

So, you see how ridiculous your proposals were. I would say that's a good start. But, based on your previous posts, I doubt you really get the point.

 

The “Carbon Dioxide is Plant Food” argument isn’t at all creditable and has been thoroughly debunked .
Why Plants Can't Sequester Excess CO2
http://www.science20.com/chatter_box/why_plants_cant_sequester_excess_co2
Climate myths: Higher CO2 levels will boost plant growth and food production
http://environment.newscientist.com...l-boost-plant-growth-and-food-production.html

 

I don't want to claim I know more about biology than I actually do know. This area of science has a wide body of knowledge and I know better than to step that far away from what I do know.

I never said the gas is food. I never told you what we breathe is food either.

I do accept that green houses do have Carbon Dioxide pumped into them and am under the impression the farmers believe the science supports the plants grow more robustly due to the gas in the green houses.

 

Your posting can vastly improve by merely following forum rules.

 

I don't want to claim I know more about biology than I actually do know. This area of science has a wide body of knowledge and I know better than to step that far away from what I do know.

I never said the gas is food. I never told you what we breathe is food either.

I believe that came from NOAA.

 

Thank you.

 

Haven't you folks heard...CO2 does not matter anymore We gots us a much bigger fish to fry.
"
Scientists have discovered as many as 7,000 gas-filled 'bubbles' expected to explode in Actic regions of Siberia after an exercise involving field expeditions and satellite surveillance, TASS reported.

A number of large craters - seen on our images here - have appeared on the landscape in northern Siberia in recent years and they are being carefully studied by scientists who believe they were formed when pingos exploded.

Alexey Titovsky, director of Yamal department for science and innovation, said: 'At first such a bump is a bubble, or 'bulgunyakh' in the local Yakut language.

'With time the bubble explodes, releasing gas. This is how gigantic funnels form.'"
http://siberiantimes.com/science/ca...ound-gas-bubbles-poised-to-explode-in-arctic/

Just wait until Alaska melts.

 

I did more checking and the EPA uses it.

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-high-and-low-temperatures

 

So, let's gather around and examine the EPA heat wave index. What can we learn from that graph.

Notice it is a genuine graph. I do not like the Hockey stick for some obvious reasons. Mann drew it to deceive.

But this is about the graph used by the EPA.

Heat waves occur with a large warming event. Which explains why they don't happen annually. Even at Death Valley, it had a major heat event in 1913 yet today we do not see that pattern still taking place. In fact compare to 1913, Death Valley is in a prolonged cooling period.

What we learn from the excellent EPA graph once more posted in evidence, is that this stuff called global warming does not apply globally. It skips the USA. Misses us by a mile. We have had moderate temperatures since 1939 based on the scientific graph.

 

Some do some don't

 

This is from Wikipedia. Now, let's start by trying to appear to be scientific. Let's watch for trends, patterns and clear evidence of great danger. When you see a report of a heat wave in Spain, where else was there a problem? Was Germany reasonable yet Spain hot? Then look over France. Was it super hot yet the USA moderate? When you see one heat wave, how long was it? Was it a few days or months at a time? Here in the USA, since this is supposed to be global climate, was it super hot all over the USA or isolated to a state or maybe several of them?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heat_waves

Note, use wikipedia since I had to keep chopping this down to a smaller size

 

Still having problems with the idea of AVERAGE

MEAN means the same thing as AVERAGE. So when we talk of a rise in MEAN GLOBAL temperatures then that is the averaged temperatures from everywhere. Climate is the aggregation of those temperatures to determine the trend

 

Again again this is LOCAL data not global and it is individual events not averaged trended data

 

We have known about the dangers of out gassing in Siberia for some time. Problem is we still have people believing global warming is not happening

 

DOT plays no role in climate. This is the current DOT site.

https://www.transportation.gov/

You challenged the graph posted by the past EPA administration for a rather odd reason. Why did you challenge Obama?

 

Good scientists rely on reliable data. It is easy to locate warming data for the USA Clearly we are not warming. Graphs such as I presented and used by the Obama team could lie, but not in this case.

Try to find similar graphs done for the rest of the world. Do they not care?

It is next to impossible to discuss global climate when the data does not exist.