Let's debunk what CO2 does. Let's also explain what it does not do.

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    Today I went with Dennis, a local friend and I mentioned this crap over climate change. Dennis votes normally for non republicans. He did vote for Romney but his reason is Romney is in the same church Dennis and I are. Anyway, I told Dennis climate has to groups. Scientists and politicians. We are for the most part of just a discussion group and we have no way to impact the science and it appears to me, no way to impact on politics.

    Face it, my politicians supposedly representing me are only Democrats. Fat chance they will ever represent me. And the Science is not done that way.

    I enjoy actual climate scientists. Contacting Dr. Lindzen was simple when I did it but he did not engage in a long term dialogue. But it gave me an idea to speak of the daily lies told by Democrats about the man.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    Explain the link of evolution to climate.
     
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    We are not suggesting we remove weather from climate in fact the opposite

    Climate is, by definition trended weather data. Now to understand that you have to understand the concept of "average'

    Which - when reading posts on this forum I have doubts about
     
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    Both are based on science - and both require an abandonment of scientific thinking to believe
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    When you try to convert Democrat politics into science, it simply can not work. They live with a particular philosophy of the globe where they manage all lives. The vehicle used is government. Which is why when this problem showed up, we heard carbon taxes. Now such taxes never would apply to a solution. Democrats know the climate varies and there is no solution.

    Ask they where the Carbon Dioxide is tht they blame on climate and you get a shrug. Scientists ought to know things like this to make predictions. Next to the soil is one place for it. 50,000 feet up the situation is extremely different. I get no reply when I ask where this magic Carbon Dioxide really is. They look blank and go HUH!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Linzden has not got a good track record at getting things right

    https://www.skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Richard_Lindzen.htm

    32 quotes attributed to Linzden not supported by further evidence or research
     
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    AH! NOW we are getting political and the real reason for denialism surfaces - "I dont like it because the people I dont like do like it"

    Simplistic thinking and non-scientific

    When you actually want to have a scienfitic debate get back to me
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    So to understand Climate, you study deeply the theory of evolution. Funny but when I studied science for many years, I studied it not for those reasons.

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    I wish you checked out who "skeptical science actually is.

    Lindzen is in top of all climate scientists. I talked to him. Have you discussed anything with him?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    Probably not since you are a mere amateur. But thanks anyway.

     
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    Then learn to play on our level

    That means scientific thinking and posting.

    Choose a point of contention - i.e. That Antarctica is experiencing more snow - back that with research papers from accredited journals and respected authors and put forth your arguments

    THEN I will treat you will all due respect in return but post rubbish that is unsupported and does not take into account BASIC LAWS OF PHYSICS OR BASIC MATHMATICAL CONCEPTS and expect to have your posts ripped to shreds
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Donor

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    Alarm me when it is too warn to grow grapes in either Newfoundland or Nova Scotia.
    And when "England" grows better wine grapes than France!

    Ref.: Little Ice Age, Big Chill. Easily found on YouTube, produced by History Channel.
    The first 15 minutes is about the "warm up" before the Little Ice Age.
     
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    Why should I he is only ONE scientist - and if you had clicked on the links that skeptical science provided you will see every single point is referenced with a peer reviewed paper

    BTW I do know who Skeptical Science is and I have met John Cook personally
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    From the person who did not know what diffusion was
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    Cook is not a climate scientist.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you mean me, that is a lie.
     
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    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough, should we also alarm you when you have a heart attack? Or should you take measures to prevent it before it happens?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    Here is a good discussion by Dr. Curry when Obama was the president.

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    Let's hear from a prominent Meteorologist in England who claims there is no such thing as man made climate change.

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    Professor Ivar Giaever addresses why he pays no attention to "global warming claims"

     

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