Let's do perpetual

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  1. Equality

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    Nobodies out of my league, you just all need to think about things a bit more. What I said there is basic science and what science says if people read it correctly.

    Thanks though for the sarcasm lol.
     
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    Not really. Scientists have declared that the universe is not a closed system.

    Some have also suggested that lifeforms and complexity counteract entropy.
     
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    But the math has nothing to do with the physical reality you diagramed. I can make up equations, that doesn't mean they or your apparatus can work. Again, I challenge you to actually create the apparatus you designed. You will see it does little.
     
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    There is basic science, and I haven't seen much evidence of your knowledge of it. Again, please build that perpetual motion apparatus, and prove us wrong. (you won't either build it or prove us wrong, but it's a good challenge, and if you actually attempt it you may realize how full of **** your idea is.)
     
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    Not to mention that pretty much every physicist alive or who ever lived in modern times, toyed with ideas like this as a child. We all did. Then we grew up!

    That is what this is - playtime for children.

    I remember playing with similar ideas around age 11 and 12. By age 13 I was studying my fathers college physics books.
     
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  6. Equality

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    It is just a waste of my time talking with people who have such closed minds.
     
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    So I guess that means you're not going to build the apparatus, and prove us wrong. It's a simple thing to do. You should be able to have a prototype up in a couple of hours.

    My mind isn't closed at all. Yours is. You close yours to the findings of the physical world, and instead make up these brain experiments that aren't based in reality. Science is a description of the natural world. You ignore that part of science. Instead, you think your "open-minded" fantasies are reality. Again, I challenge you to really create this apparatus. You should be able to get all the parts at a hardware store. You won't because you know you are wrong.
     
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    You have to have funds to build things, something I do not have.
     
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    Shouldn't cost more than $15 or $20 as illustrated. If you don't have $15 or $20 to spare, you need to get off the forums, and get a second job.
     
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    I am in the UK , £'s . It would cost more than 15 bucks to build it proper.
     
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    Guy remember Dean so call reactionless drive?

    There is a whole list of devices that it would had been wonderful if it they would had proven to be real.

    Cold fusion is another such idea.
     
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    So by closed minds I take it you mean education?
     
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    Not at all sir, I am referring to people who may be educated in the sense of remembering what they were taught, who have no clue how to critically think about what that information is really ''saying'' .
    Repeating present information all the time, I will call the Parrot illness.
     
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    I see...so those who do not see what YOU see....understood.
     
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    Not at all sir, I don't dictate people have to accept my notions. I present the idea and it is up to the reader to think about what I am saying.
    People go straight into defense mode as if it is an attack , when it is discussion to make conclusions as a group.
     
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    So what happens when EVERYONE that views your presentation disagrees with your conclusions based on established science and observation? Do you then get upset and argue?
     
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    Not at all, I may pretend online to get annoyed , but in reality it just makes me more determined to show my conclusion was correct. I do this by finding more ''evidence'' , although my definition of evidence may not agree with somebody else's definition.

    Added- Providing the opposing argument does not produce absolute answers.

    Added- I may get annoyed if people are being intentionally obtuse.
     
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    In this case you disagree with what is considered absolute and likely consider us all obtuse for debating your conclusions.
     
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    Absolute, the final answer , is that not we strive for ?

    A lot of science is not absolute, anything that is not absolute is therefore debatable.

    Shall we start with time ?

    Sciences arrow of time pointing from now to now?

    The speed of time being equal to a velocity ? ~1000mph

    That is two errors from the off.
     
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    Here is the absolute model of time, this is how time works. 100 % correct model

    time model.jpg
     
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    Consider the center now is moving left to right then right to left in a continuous cycle. That will show you why the model is correct.
     
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    Very little in science is absolute, in fact the very concept requires constant observation and revision to even exists. Time is not something a direction works well with and velocity is not relevant beyond relativity concepts. EVERYTHING is debatable but some things fail to pass the first argument, the key is to understand when that happens.
     
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    It would seem you have an interesting understanding of the term "Absolute".

    Have A Nice Day:)
     
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    Well absolute means 100% to me,

    Have a good day sir :banana:
     
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    Then your illustration was too vague. Based on the illustration I saw, I could build it with stuff out of my garage.
     

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