Let's do perpetual

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about you, but I've actually played with magnets and coils of wire. Your apparatus simply won't work. Nothing to do with closed minds. Has to do with actual observations.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    What in the world are you blabbing about? Time is a component of velocity, but you can't talk about the "speed" of time. Please spend a year studying physics before you just rant and rave.
     
  3. BillRM

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    As a kid I would had fun making coils for home build transformers and relays and even an electric gun that would throw small metal rods across the room with some force.
     
  4. Equality

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    You said that response out of reaction with your ''programmed'' knowledge. Consider how the measurement of time was derived and then come back when you have considered some history . In all due respect you are answering without thinking.

    ~24 hrs = 1 rotation period = velocity
     
  5. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Really? Time has nothing to do with rotation periods, except that we measure the rate of rotation by time. Time is independent of rotation.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Cool, but I'm sure none of your devices were perpetual motion devices.
     
  7. Equality

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    Please go learn some history of time.
     
  8. BillRM

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    No not a perpetual motion machine but I did once put together a crystal radio that you would tune to a local powerful station and used it power to drive a one transistor amplifier radio for weaker stations.

    Got the plan if I remember correctly from popular
    mechanics.
     
  9. Equality

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    Push an object into space, Newtons laws apply, it will remain in perpetual motion until something interrupts the object. I thought it did not exist?
     
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    There was a desk top set of metal balls perhaps a train of 10 ?
    Touted as perpetual motion,
    And you set them clacking, and they ran a long time.

    I remember a movie where a guy, maybe
    Leslie Neilson ?
    He sets the balls going, and the man yells:
    "Stop playing with My balls !"
     
  11. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    That's not perpetual motion, as it's slowing down the whole time. Space isn't a total vacuum.

    https://www.livescience.com/55944-perpetual-motion-machines.html
     
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    There is a type of clock that is power by the changes in atmosphere pressure and therefore keep running.

     
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    I think the key point, which you answered in your statement above, is that there is always 'something that interrupts the object'. It is this 'something' that prevents pure perpetual motion...
     
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