Let's get a few things straight- Right Now.

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  1. altmiddle

    altmiddle Well-Known Member

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    Why does it matter if he was an Obama supporter or not?
     
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    fishinD Well-Known Member

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    How dare you use facts when arguing with overtly emotional liberals? Then their only defense can be to personally attack you, and claim your facts are bogus (of course, not producing any of their own)
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    So the cop was just acting as Judge Dredd. Uh-huh.
    "
    The Judge system
    Main article: Judge (2000 AD)

    Street Judges act as police, judge, jury, and executioner. Capital punishment in Mega-City One is rarely used,[49] though deaths while resisting arrest are commonplace. Numerous writers have used the Judge System to satirize contemporary politics.

    Judges, once appointed, can be broadly characterised as "Street Judges" (who patrol the city), and administrative, or office-based Judges. Dredd was once offered the job of Chief Judge; but refused it.[50] The incorruptibility of the Judges is supposedly maintained by the Special Judicial Squad (SJS), although SJS Judges have themselves broken the law on occasion, most notably SJS head Judge Cal who killed the Chief Judge and usurped his office for himself.[51] The Judge System has spread world-wide, with various super-cities possessing similar methods of law enforcement. As such this political model has become the most common form of government on Earth, with only a few small areas practicing civilian rule. There is an international "Judicial Charter" which countries and city states join upon instituting a Judge System.[52]"


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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Thats my point..it doesent. HE claimed the rioters had a political affiliation, Im saying dont assume independents are on the left.
     
  5. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have laws, police and judges because mob rule doesn't work very well.... too many of the mob are criminals themselves. Or think like you apparently do.
     
  6. altmiddle

    altmiddle Well-Known Member

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    Do you believe the rioters voted independent? From the videos I have seen they are mostly black (rioters not protester), do blacks not overwhelmingly vote democrat?
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    LOL. wow.
    Interesting assumptions you have there..Rioters vote? I didnt even realize most of em were above 18 years old...did you see them behind the masks?
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting to watch the left defend the trash of society, like they deserved respect and credibility no matter what they do.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Heh..and that terrifies you doesent it. People that dont think like you?
    Conservatives in a nutshell. Its why your policies never work. Good principles to live by, till you try to force it on others.
     
  10. altmiddle

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    I am not assuming really, they did not look like children to me. I would say most appear to be in their 20s. A mask does not hide the entire face nor were all of them wearing one.

    Why do you believe the rioters were independent and under 18?
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Who's defending the rioters?


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    You are the one lumping in them with the peaceful protesters.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    I dont belive they are anything other then bad actors. I dont try to lump them with a political affiliation, its pointless, cause they have none. None of our current available affiliations condone violence. But if there was one that is close to doing it, it would be Trump supporters.
     
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    Interesting. So you believe that people screaming "kill white people" and "F*** Donald Trump" have commonalities with Trump supporters... I have not seen Trump supporters burning buildings, looting, and assaulting people.

    What about Antifa? They are about as far left as you can go. This is exactly what they do...

    Why do you believe Trump supporters condone rioting?
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
    The fake account, @ANTIFA_US, tweeted Sunday, "ALERT Tonight's the night, Comrades Tonight we say "F**k The City" and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours #BlacklivesMaters #F**kAmerica."

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/tech/antifa-fake-twitter-account/index.html

    Its not a belief, its whats happening. And its not isolated to twitter.
    Discord, facebook, tiktok,youtube, IRL..its everywhere. Trump supporters just crave violence. They want Trump to start shooting, so they are trying to give him a reason.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that's the s
    same crap juvenile deliquents spew all the time. If we just let them have their way, took their s h i t , everything would be fine- and it would increase because we allowed it.

    Such people never think responsibly, never see themselves as having any obligation to society or other people. You use Floyd George as a poster boy- ignoring the fact he spent 5 years in a texas prison for armed home invasion and was being arrested for passing counterfeit money. He had a history of violent crime, but that's not convenient to hear, so the MSM is stepping around it like a fresh cowpile in the pasture. That doesn't excuse the cop- but it points out who the cop was dealing with.

    The riots don't terrify me, they anger me. They make me think that these people have no place in a just society at all, and that is their choice, not mine. They are trash by choice- not because of any injustice. Injustice obviously doesn't bother them when they loot and burn private property, only when someone says they are criminals for doing so. Calling them out is proof of discrimination, isn't it?

    These people aren't protesting, they are rioting- robbing, looting vandalizing, burning, and enjoying it. TERRORISTS- but you think we should take their s h i t, don't you?

    The question is how to resolve the threat they pose to a a decent world.
    Ideally, they would become responsible adults on their own, but we know that won't happen. These are thugs at their core, only acting decent when there are consequences so being a thug.

    That leaves two options-
    One, allow them to trash the nation- and that is unacceptable.
    Two, impose consequences for unacceptable behavior. How severe depends on what they make necessary.
    Regardless of what it takes- that is what we will do.

    You can talk about "justice" after you learn to act within the principles of justice. Until then, such people are thugs, criminals, and terrorists.

    As far as I'm concerned- anything that happens to such people in the process of criminal acts is ok. No sympathy, no quarter.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    We want no sympathy for the Cops either.

    One of the looters(seen breaking windows at an Autozone and setting a fire at McDonalds) in Minneapolis turns out to be Jacob Pederson, a cop. The best part is that his ex-wife identified his ass. #Minneapolisprotests #minneapolisriots


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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ides-your-life-job-savings-everything.573317/

    ROFL.:roflol::roflol:
    And just like that, your narrative has been ripped to shreds.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hardly- YOU bought into the propaganda, didn't follow up to see if it was real:

    Jacob Pederson Is Not the AutoZone Umbrella Man, St. Paul Police Say
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    A viral and incendiary social media accusation against a St. Paul, Minnesota, police officer is false, the police department said in a statement. The situation shows how quickly information can spread on social media, ricocheting around the web and damaging people’s reputations, especially in a fast-moving situation like the unrest in the Twin Cities.


    It also shows how those desperate to dodge the truth eagerly take the bait and think they have some kind of victory.
     
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    This isn't about race, it's about class.

    The ruling classes want the working classes divided along racial, religious, cultural lines.

    Believing that police brutality is racially motivated is just buying into the ruling class propaganda.

    George Floyd isn't dead because he was black, he's dead because he was poor and therefore powerless.

    You will never see what happened to George Floyd happen to a rich black man.

    Meanwhile, I could name just as many white people, also members of the working class, who were murdered by police.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    ROFL, for all anyone knows, THAT could be a hoax, or a coverup by the department.
    You dodged a bullet there though. What I typed still applies, cause that's just one example of the multiple i gave you.
     
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    So no rioting, just some online hate speech by some crazy RW extremists trying to throw gas on the fire?

    Let me ask you this then. When you read those tweets did you lose control of yourself and go burn down the local Target? Is it your assertion that others did?
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean no Rioting??? WTF, its all over the news.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right.
    All the cops are evil and dedicated to your demise and want you dead, so let go next door and set fire to our neighbor's house and the grocery store down the street to teach them a lesson.
    Perhaps shoot a few like they did in St Louis last night. That will show them that we deserve more respect, for sure.
    It's just so simple, isn't it?
     
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    Rioting from RW extremists as you suggested...
     
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    Antifa is well financed, and they have just been waiting for a trigger to go full ape.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm personally against any extremists, but may I ask what groups do you feel qualify as right-wing extremists?
     

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