Let's get some stuff straight about Hunter and Joe.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct. Anything else?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For starters, it has long been known that the Chinese companies work in concert with the Chinese government in order to further the goals of its government. There have been documents put out recently by the Chinses government and elaborated upon by Xi himself.

    "Such is the case with China’s “Opinion on Strengthening the United Front Work of the Private Economy in the New Era,” recently released by the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (and further elaborated on by President Xi Jinping himself). This document tells us in no uncertain terms that Chinese private companies will be increasingly called upon to conduct their operations in tight coordination with governmental policy objectives and ideologies. The rest of the world should take note."
    Are Private Chinese Companies Really Private? – The Diplomat


    The above is actually enough to justify my comment about working for "companies and/or governments" which is a direct reference to the relationship in China between private and government, but if you want an even closer connection, Hunter Biden also worked with an equity firm called BHR that purchased a $1.7 billion equity stake in the actual 100% Chinese government controlled company Unipec which is a branch of Sinopec.

    "Sinopec has a prior history with the Bidens. In 2013, Hunter Biden co-founded the private equity firm BHR Partners. In 2015, BHR acquired a $1.7 billion stake in Sinopec Marketing."
    Biden Admin Sold Nearly 1 Million Barrels Of Oil To Chinese State-Owned Company Tied To Hunter Biden | The Daily Wire
     
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  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's some reading for you. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/trumps-claims-about-hunter-biden-in-china/
     
  4. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You will have to forgive me because unlike you and some others in here, I personally do not have Trump on the brain...

    What does this link have to do with anything that I have said?

    Are you arguing against a point that has not been raised?

    Why did you post this link?
     
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  5. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

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    I guess my point is gonna be, "deal with it". Don't throw stones in glass houses.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Except for the one small detail that we have a TON of evidence on Trump, and you have no evidence on Joe Biden.
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, but given your recent history why would that be a problem?

    The Biden administration sold close to one million barrels of oil from the United States’ strategic reserve to a Chinese company that one of his son’s equity companies once bought a $1.7 billion stake in.

    Just checking, did you want me to take that as a serious allegation of foul play? Because if you do, why isn't the Chinese government granting trademarks for Ivanka to do biz in China a cause for concern?

    You asked why I posted the link. Because there is information in the article concerning Hunter's relationship with BHR. Meaning it has direct bearing on what you said. Perhaps that's why you avoided reading it.

    It appears you have fallen victim to the trap of extrapolating on innuendo stoked by right wing media but lacking any factual substantiation. Be sure to get back to us if you uncover any.
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With what?
     
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    You for once are right, it is a BFD.

    Not for Hunter banging whores or smoking crack. Not for Hunter carrying on the family tradition of kid diddling.

    No.

    The BFD is Hunter was used as the front man for numerous pay-for-access and the related money laundering schemes that went along with them. Not registering as a foreign agent is what the left went ape :icon_shithappens: over with regards to Paul Manafort. Hunter is Manafort on steroids with the addition of Big Joe also getting PAID for access and not paying taxes to boot.

    That **** will get you decades in jail if you aren't a Biden. But I suppose the swamp will protect its rats no matter the cost, even if the cost is the Republic.
     
  10. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny, because I did not use that tidbit of information from that article. I showed that article in order to establish that Hunter has had dealings directly working with a company that is owned and ran directly by the Chinese government. In other words, I was answering YOUR request for documentation of such, and it did precisely that.

    I actually explained what was relevant when I posted the link, and I posted the relevant quotes out of that link so that you could see precisely what I was referencing. You on the other hand explained nothing and referenced nothing, and instead opted to simply implore me to read it, which is an unusual and useless tactic in a political chat board when making a claim from a particular link.

    You now say because there is "information in it that has a direct bearing on what [I} said". This may be a novel concept to you, but can you tell me what in there you are saying has bearing? This makes two posts now where you have not done so. Nobody in here is a mind reader. What does it say and why does that support your position? Speak up. Make your point. Explain what you are trying to say. An unexplained link accomplishes nothing.
     
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  11. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    It will be a legend in your own mind for years to come.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The Delaware US attorney investigating H Biden was appointed by Bill Barr and Trump, you think he's dancing to Joe's tune? I don't think so. Clearly your premise is without merit whatsoever
     
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    Don't champion investigations on republican leaders without expecting the same treatment returned. Fairly evident what I'm saying.
     
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    Which is completely false and is just more disinformation.

    I can't even believe people post this stuff unless they actually work for Joe Biden (The DNC) and are working as hard as possible to cover up his crimes. Or maybe the work of a foreign government?

    What other reson would there be? Certainly not an effort to report the truth.
     
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    Among those who don't understand that equity isn't a crime . . . especially since there is no evidence it was ever entered into anyway . . . and it was only contemplated when the guy was no longer in office. Ah, yes, a nothing burger (hold the bun) that will live in infamy among uniformed conspiracy wonks.
     
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    Well, yes, there is that. I wasn't aware Hunter is an ex-convict felon. Maybe his wife (ex-wife??) or girl friend owns his gun.
     
  17. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hunter Biden is a Dem leader? BTW, when an actual Dem leader tries to steal a presidential election you won't find me objecting to an investigation.
     
  18. Lee Atwater

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    Dealings, what dealings?

    Hunter Biden’s attorney says Hunter Biden neither created the management company nor had an ownership stake until well after his father left office.

    “BHR (Shanghai) Equity Investment Fund Management Company (‘BHR’) is an investment management company that was formed in 2013,” George Mesires told us via email. “Hunter did not form BHR, was not an initial owner of BHR, and did not own any interest in BHR until October 2017, after his father had left government service. BHR was capitalized with approximately $4.2 million USD from various sources, not $1.5 billion. Hunter did not acquire any interest in BHR until October 2017 when he acquired a 10% interest, which has a $420,000 capital commitment.”

    Trump and Hunter Biden’s attorney are talking past each other a bit. Trump says Hunter Biden “walk[ed] out of China with $1.5 billion in a fund.” Biden’s attorney dismissed that figure, saying “BHR was capitalized with approximately $4.2 million USD from various sources, not $1.5 billion.” The $1.5 billion figure refers to the size of the funds raised for investments.

    Hunter Biden did serve on BHR’s original board of directors while his father was vice president, but Mesires told the Washington Post that Biden was on the board of the advisory firm that did not directly invest, but instead advised those who did.

    Mesires told us, “Hunter has not received any return on his investment or compensation on account of his position on the board of directors.”
     
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    I doubt that. I believe the DNC won't allow Biden to run in 2024. It is about sending a message to other politicians.
     
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    You guys have one hell of a double standard...lol
     
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    What message?
     
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    Along with the rest of the world.
     
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    Out of the highlighted portion of your link.... "Hunter Biden did serve on BHR’s original board of directors while his father was vice president"

    THOSE dealings. The one's where he was on the Board of Directors.



    Did I say that Hunter owned the company? I said nothing of the sort. In fact I did not know that he was an owner in 2017. I fail to see how that furthers your position, however.

    Why are you arguing against the notion of him owning the company in 2013?
     
  24. Lee Atwater

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    but Mesires told the Washington Post that Biden was on the board of the advisory firm that did not directly invest, but instead advised those who did.

    However, George Mesires, lawyer for Hunter Biden, said in an interview earlier this year that his client’s role has been misconstrued. He said Hunter Biden was on the board of the advisory firm that did not directly invest, but instead advised those who did.

    Moreover, Mesires said, it was not until October 2017 that Hunter Biden acquired a financial stake in BHR. Hunter Biden bought a 10 percent equity interest that was worth $430,000 in July, Mesires said. At least half of the firm’s stake is owned by Chinese entities, according to business records.

    “To date, Mr. Biden has not received any return or compensation on account of this investment or his position on the board of directors,” Meseris said in a statement Wednesday. “The characterization of Mr. Biden as owning a $1.5 billion private equity firm funded by the Chinese, or suggesting that Mr. Biden has earned millions of dollars from the firm is a gross misrepresentation of Mr. Biden’s role with BHR.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b89e7e-dfcf-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

    There's no there there. Got anything else?
     
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    I have a theory that might explain all fo this. I think that they can't stand the fact that Hillary is the most exonerated politician in all of history, and they want Hunter to take her place instead as the most exonerated.

    I mean, they already know they'll have the most prosecuted President in U.S. History. So they wouldn't want his direct opponent to be the one holding the opposite record.
     
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