LGBT bill to ban therapy for youth on sexual orientation issues is stalled in Mass.

I'm sure you believe this twaddle, the question is why do you?

 

And you wish you could push a button to add more.

its kind of hard to, since 56 million of those happen here.

I think you have some issues if you think about that kind of thing.

So being single is a disorder? Being a child is a disorder? What a joke.

That's a really dumb argument. I'll show you why. Homosexuals can and do procreate. They do all the time.

 

Easier to dislike people and treat them poorly if you believe they are child molesters.

It's basically some backward propaganda from the 60s. Already been disproven.

Clutching onto disproven mantra is delusional. If say believing that twaddle is a mental disorder.

 

Most pedophiles will abuse any young person who comes under their control, male or female. The media however have a habit of labelling any pedophile who abuses a boy as ' a homosexual pedophile'. If however the abuser attacks a girl the media do not report them as 'a heterosexual pedophile' playing into pre-conceptions the ignorant need to have reinforced for reasons only their psychiatrist would be able to explain.

 

That's the excuse paedophiles trot out, not homosexuals.

 

It's not my fault you're using your white privilege to ignore what I'm saying. Typical racist.

 

I read what you said. You wish you could eradicate homosexuality. Why, does it threaten you?

 

So why do you hate gay people? That's rude.

 

That's a bit strange. Where did you get the idea that I hated gay people?

 

Of course it isn't unanimous because there are unscrupulous quack snake-oil vendors out there who know an easy way to a quick buck by cynically exploiting the gullible and vulnerable and calling it 'therapy'.

 

Oh good grief. Gay and lesbian people form a miniscule proportion of any country's population. If you think that non-procreation is such a threat then perhaps you should turn your attention to the millions of straight folk, worldwide, who choose not to have children for whatever reason. I suggest there are many more of those, statistically, than gays and lesbians. I've heard some stupid arguments in my time but implying that a few people not having children in an already overcrowded world is, somehow, a threat to the future of mankind is about as stupid as they come.

 

I must admit I was unfamiliar with the "two-spirit" stuff. I've read a lot over the last couple days.

Probably what led me to believe homosexuality wasn't widely accepted among Natives (remember there are literally hundreds of tribes across North America) was the news surrounding Indian Nations banning gay marriage several years ago.

As I've read from books written by pre-colonial trappers and explorers and such, homosexuality did exist, at least among tribes in Canada and parts of the Northeast. The Spanish also discovered it in the West. The Christians did indeed condemn it. Some tribes did indeed (this is already well known) adopt parts and sometimes all of Christian beliefs into their own traditional beliefs. That obviously would've had an impact of the practice being reduced, marginalized, etc.

As with virtually every other demographic in America, with acceptance has come more historical gay literature being discovered and made known. In the 90s, American and Native American anthropologists, writers, etc. began to bring to light the lesser known facts about homosexuality among Native Americans.

Reading through the material regarding the gay marriage laws passed by the largest tribes made me wonder. Are they really that far removed from their ancient culture on this particular issue? The closest thing I found to an answer was this;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1538746/Navajo-on-the-war-path-over-gay-rights-charter.html

Apparently, the Navajo aren't crazy about many gay groups using their name in their branding.

 

There is no 'gay gene', never has been and never will be. Ask any honest homosexual (you'll have to ask an EX homosexual as they don't have an 'agenda' that they have to be loyal to) and they'll tell you that their same sex desires were brought on by being molested as a child, having a absent or distant father, an overbearing mother, or other factors that twisted their view and hence desires of normal sexuality as a youth. As a Christian it's commanded of me to "love my neighbor as I'd love myself". If I can't help these morally confused people find a way out of their 'deathstyle', then I truly don't love them, I'd hate them.

Look at all of the 'icons' of the LGBTQ movement and their ties to pedophilia /pederasty: Harry Hay, Frank Kameny, David Thorstadt, Harvey Milk, Terry Bean, etc. etc. etc. "Man-Boy love" is huge in the homosexual lifestyle. While physical rape does happen, it usually involves 'grooming' the youth to willfully partake in the sexual act.

 

interesting. So, you have never had a BJ?

 

Never claimed there was.

I'm one of those.

An ex homosexual isn't a homosexual. And they absolutely have an agenda to protect.

perhaps somebody so twisted up in their own delusion to be talked into ex gay nonsense. But they are a tiny tiny minority.

Only somebody twisted up in a cult could ever believe the hatred you espouse is love. But than again you have probably been indoctrinated all your life.

They don't need help conforming to your cult.

 

I wish you hadn't said that!

 

There is a thread on this , how many do you want ?????

 

Perhaps that's how you perceive those comments. Even so, it's fair to at least ask:

What are some of the things that certain 'Christians' may say/do, which some or many people may be averse to?

(Brainwashing or indoctrinating children or persecuting those who don't adhere to their beliefs... are major things on the 'list'.)

 

Seen it on this forum. One self declared gay posted hoping that a person who claimed to be ex-gay will die of AIDS. Another than someone who opposes SSM should be dragged into the street and killed.

Even suggesting that everyone who is gay wasn't born gay will invoke ever possible insult and accusation. It dare not even be questioned. The same for suggesting it even possible that trans aren't born that way.

While wanting to criminalize any counseling of anyone questioning whether he/she is gay and wishing not to be, these same laws keep legal what is call "gay ratification" counseling. Simply put, they want it a criminal offense to counsel a teen that he/she is heterosexual, but entirely legal to counsel a teen that he/she is homosexual.

 

Making up crap again? Can't be honest when playing victim.

 

You are paying too much attention to propaganda from the fifties. Propaganda as you know is just lying right?

 

If I had a kid tell me that I would hug them, tell them I love them no matter what and thank them for telling me. I'd ask if they were curious about anything or if they had concerns or fears. I'd talk to them in age appropriate ways about sex. I'd ask if they had a community they felt a part of, or if they wanted me to find somewhere with other gay kids their age. I'd ask if they wanted to talk to a therapist, not to change them but to help them understand their feelings and desires or even to just listen to what they might be embarrassed about. Kids don't want to tell their parents everything. I'd find some adult gay role models if I didn't already know some, who could show my kid that they could have a totally normal life. Most importantly I would listen and simply be there.

 

I was not molested as a child and my straight parents were awesome, and I am a lesbian. I grew up in a typical white suburb. There was one or two people in high school who were openly gay. I had no "influence". This is an insane claim to make. Are some gay people molested? Yes, so are some straight people. Molestation doesn't guarantee a change in sexual orientation.

 

I have seen far more posters actively tell a poster who is identified as 'gay' that they hope that they die of AIDS, or that if they met them in person that they would beat the poster up for being a queer.

The victim hood of those like yourself who advocate an anti-gay agenda and then are SHOCKED! that people react poorly to it would be comical if it wasn't so sad.

 

Your message is a lie. However, your message confirms my prior message perfectly.