LGBTQ(IA...) want infinity standards for infinity classes, does this make them the "Infinity class"?

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  1. Ming the Merciless

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    It's unclear whether or not this will catch on but I saw the term LGBTQIA recently. Seems like it never ends!

    I'm sure that on a forum like this, everyone is aware of the inconsistencies apparent in the LGBTQ community and perhaps particularly within the transgender portion of that community. So I won't waste anyone's time describing it here, just briefly recall if you will some of these inconsistencies so that you can understand where I'm going with this.

    I've argued before that modern liberalism is really a desire for a class system: the conservative class gets no due process rights for certain kinds of accusations, the liberal class gets full due process, this is really about a desire to have two different social classes. But maybe this is not the best way to phrase what they're doing.

    It's sometimes hard to argue with this kind of person because their self-identification, or identity (which I will treat as "how they define their place in reality") seems to be to tailored to each individual's desires. Instead of grounding their identity in an observable reality, they define themselves according to what they want, unconcerned or willfully blind regarding how their desires stem from the same reality they've rejected. In extreme cases this can even change from one situation to the next, e.g. "gender fluids": when a gender fluid is with someone where it's advantageous for them to be a "man" they're a man, then they'e a woman, then they're a pony, whatever works for them in that circumstance and if you pressure them they can switch. Everything is always in flux. I could wax on about how this is basically a consequence of Marxist dialectical materialism, wherein things are discussed not in terms of set definitions but in terms of their relationships with other things: the most obvious way to abuse that philosophical presumption is to change how given relationships are perceived until you think you have the advantage in debate. I think that's a shame; I'm a bit of an agnostic when it comes to objective values (I know that I can be wrong all the time) but I know that most people are not mature enough to discuss things in the context of their relationships with other things which is why we are usually stuck trying to agree upon what objective reality is. If you disagree with me on that point, recall that you're reading a thread about gender-fluids...

    This corruption of our attempts to understand reality is basically what the west's quasi-Marxists are at in large numbers today: they invent new classes and new terms, either from the Book of 452 Genders or something that they made up just now, so that they can benefit from or discard existing norms at will and if that fails, they can try to make up their own. If you support them in this you are one of them and you will benefit from an implicit truce, even when the imagined social classes might conflict. If you are against it you are not one of them and you are their enemy.

    It's a long shot but maybe all it would take to put an end to this game is to give them an appropriate derogative. I would suggest the "infinity class" because they make up new classes at will, potentially an infinite number of classes, so that they can use or discard or invent any norms as needed. Yet despite being infinite, they are one! If people were to call them the infinity class when they try to make others participate in their imagined identity (their place in reality) they might become less confusing to debate because you can head them off at the rhetorical pass. It won't matter whether they're a transgender, a gender fluid or an otherkin, the term infinity class can encompass anything. In some circles at least, if perhaps only on the internet, the infinity class gets nothing. Only real classes of people are established enough for anyone to associate any norms with them.
     

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