Lies and False Narratives of Christianity

Orthodox is my favorite denomination within Christianity... not that this changes the fact that you basically talked over my post and did not address any of my points but .. I do like Orthodox Christianity a whole lot better than the Catholic - Protestant and especially fundamentalism.

 

Please explain how you can assure this odd statement?.

 

Of course all spirits are not equal. The Holy Spirit is God and therefore uncreated. It's the force that binds the world with love and gives us peace, while the other ones are created beings that hate us. They fulfill our worldly lusts and desires - at the expense of our soul.

 

So you cannot actually dispute the facts presented.

 

Jeanette said it well.
Nothing at all wrong with researching & comparing different beliefs. I was referring to seeking out false gods.

 

Excellent how do you tell a false god from a real one?

 

I'm disputing false narratives, masquerading as 'facts!' That is the point of the OP.

 

False narratives that you created!

 

So he cannot assure it, its just opinion.

 

When do you start?

 

So rather than providing a cure for cancer via a revelation he provides magic oil.

And the proof that this magic oil does anything is....???

Why does God hate Ethiopians?

 

The test in the Bible to determine a real man of god is listed below. Funny how no one today can call down fire.

And Elijah answered and said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.

 

The proof is in the results - and the faith that comes with it! Anyway why would God find a cure for a sickness, when one's faith is not in God but in man? Shouldn't it be up to men then to find it?

Anyway I put my faith first in God, and then in doctors - but they're limited. You on the other hand put it only in doctors - so good luck!

 

The prophets in the OT are considered Saints. There have been quite a few great saints these past decades in Greece. I know of one who could bi locate and be at two places at the same time. As a matter of fact he saved someone I know by pulling her out from under a fallen bridge in a Hyatt hotel - yet at the time he was 5 thousand miles away. Later on she became a nun and established 15 monasteries in Greece. More recently she opened one in the US.

Saint Porphyrios who I quoted in this thread was given the gift of what he called 'clear sight'. He could see through the different rock formations in the earth and knew exactly how deep someone had to drill for water.

 

The God of Abraham of the Christians is false but, the God of Abraham of the Muslims is the real one !

 

Positive feelings is not "The Holy Spirit" talking to you. Feeling a sense of calm after a prayer is just placebo.

My favorite atheist Youtuber here says more:

 

This thread is an exposè of 'lies and caricatures' of Christianity, not islam, confucianism, Mormonism, atheism, or any other religious belief.

This is not a 'proof of God!' thread, or a comparative religion examination.

But perhaps you intend this as a smear or caricature, directed at Christians? If so, it is a good example of the OP.

 

Or most likely it is irony and it went over your head!

 

So you assume, prejudicially. Others have a different opinion and experience, regarding contact with the Creator. How can you summarily dismiss all as 'delusion!'? Is your knowledge and experience omnipotent so you 'know!' the innermost thoughts and experiences of every human being?

I have no problem with disbelief. That is everyone's prerogative. But i see the need to ridicule and demean the beliefs of others with straw men and false narratives as religious bigotry.

It is the competing worldview of Progressivism, slamming Christianity to further and promote their agenda.

 

No you are promoting the false narrative that Progressivism and Christianity are competing world views, this is a straw man and religious bigotry.

 

So added to the False Narratives of Christianity should be that Progressivism is a competing world view, in fact there is no reason a Christian cannot also support Progressivism, one is a religion and the other is not.

 

The tolerant progressive is very rare, in my experience. I include you as one of the few i have ever known.
Definitions and labels seem to be the major problem, and those are used by most progressives to deflect, or smear the competition. I have personally heard, or been accused of the points in the OP. They are not straw men, with no basis in reality. It is the caricatures and lies i am refuting, not whether some, or all progressives use them.

Christianity either has a specific definition, from the Founder, or it becomes a meaningless descriptor. I address 'Christianity', as an historical, actual ideology, from its Founder.

I do not care about labels, and usually go to great pains defining and explaining concepts, so ambiguous terms do not obscure my meaning.

If 'Christianity!' means whatever anyone wants, i would agree. But there is an historical, textual, and factual description of Christianity that transcends contemporary opinion.

My address here of 'lies & caricatures!' relates to this, and i can go into historic detail, if needed, to expose the caricature. The overview is a summary.. an exposè of the false narratives. Any specific point can be debated and evidenced further, if there is interest.

 

I'll stop ridiculing and demeaning the beliefs of others the when they stop indoctrinating children and knocking on my door badgering me what my beliefs should be.

People who say non believers are going to hell deserve mockery. Years ago when my late grandmother learned that my father was divorcing my mother, she told my father he is going to hell. Had it been anyone else, I would have relentlessly ridiculed that statement.

 

Without Orthodox Christian scientist Tesla who found inspiration in the Bible and “Our Father “ prayer there would not be a modern world as we know it. So much about Christians not being progressive and science oriented.

 

My comment was not a "Proof of God" statement in the traditional sense - as in proving that God exists.

This thread is about "Lies and False Narratives" of Christianity. Certainly the question of what is the "Real" God of Abraham falls in to this category.

The first lie/ False narrative - is that the Gods attributed to the "God of Abraham" were one in the same.

The God that Abraham worshiped was El (Enlil, Elyon) - Father, most high and so on. YHWH was one of Enlil's sons.
The God that the Israelite's worshiped was YHWH.

We do not know the God that Jesus worshiped but it certainly does not appear to be YHWH. Perhaps it was El ?