Lies and misinformation of the deniers

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  1. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    Yet you want me to prove you are not Jesus Christ when you ask me to prove global warming is not caused by man. The burden of proof is on you. You cannot prove that the small fraction of CO2 in the air that is caused by man has raised global temperatures any more than they otherwise would have been raised.
     
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    Let's start with the allegedly "small fraction of CO2 in the air that is caused by man". You're saying that this:

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    ... is not man made?
     
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    Again, which disproves the accertions of global warming conspiracy theorists that a consensus of scientist exists. Thank you for proving my point.
    Your sticking with that, eh?
    Okay more proof that you do not know what you are talking about.
    What are you asking?
    No, I just don't care to argue the point because anything I say will be met with a six-year-old's response, "Na-uh!"
    I think you missed the point yet again.
    But I didn't lie. YOU LIED.
    Answer A: Wow, that information is so convincing. I have changed my mind. You should write a peer reviewed article.

    Answer B: I don't care how much BS you post, I won't bother reading it because I know you cannot prove that man is the cause of global warming.
    I never said you did. You seem to misunderstand a lot.
    Yes I do, but I didn't know how to draw large circles with a keyboard.
     
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    link please.
     
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    Especially the theory of man made global warming.
     
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    That graph is man made. I cannot attest to its accuracy; I'm not sure about what it means even. It really doesn't matter because it does not prove man made global warming.
     
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    How can you make a statement about CO2 when you don't understand the data?

    FYI, the graph shows 10,000 years of stable CO2 levels in the air, followed by <200 years of rapid rise, which starts at the same moment the Industrial Revolution starts.

    So what I'm asking is, why do you think this graphed rise in CO2 is natural?
     
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    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Frederick_Seitz
     
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    Missed the point again, didn't you PNews?
    But when Seitz states "that the IPCC had inappropriately altered a key chapter for political reasons." and "the IPCC had inappropriately altered a key chapter for political reasons. They alleged that the IPCC had “corrupted the peer review process” and violated its own procedural rules." then the burden of proof is on him. All Seitz has done is make a claim without any proof. Why are you not demanding "proof" from Seitz but yet demand endless amount from "proof" from climate scientists?
     
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    What you "think" is irrelevant. Show me your "proof" or a link to a "proof" that "heliocentricity is proven". Because I have looked and not been able to find any "proof".
     
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    Global warming is a lie...
    Al Gore is a con artist...
    Why do you think that the richest people in America, are promoting LIES? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7I"]Like Bill Gates...[/ame]
    Then the believers, i call them the "morons" try to push the psudo science that scientists have resigned over

    Ill list antother document stating that Global warming is a fraud...
    http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978594933



    Stop trying to scam us with your disproved science.
    Its all a pack of lies.

    When i was 5 years old, i learned that Humans exhale CO2 (carbon dioxide) and Plants inhale CO2 (carbon dioxide). Then plants exhale O2 (oxygen).

    Dont tell me that at 5 years old i had more intelligence than the Believers...


    Articles, detailing that the Global warming scheme is only to reduce our electrical supply...

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/27/greenbiz-us-utilities-coal-usa-epa-idUKTRE76Q5OZ20110727
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/06/09/us-utilities-operations-aep-idUKTRE75877620110609



    Watch this video if you want your Global Warming scheme crushed...


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0[/ame]


    And PLEASE challenge me, i have tons of info to DENY your lies!!!
     
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    Too bad you do not have any science or understanding of physics.
    And lying denier blogs may have lots of "info" but propaganda does not count as science.
    And do not bother to repeat the same old BS that has been addressed numerous times. Instead just go to www.skepticalscience.com and educate yourself. Or better yet, learn the science behind climate change and go to www.scienceofdoom.com to learn the science.
    Physics 101:
    Fact: CO2 is a GHG.
    Fact: Humans have added CO2, which had previously been sequestered in FF, to the atmosphere.
    If you would like to address the science, explain where the extra energy goes that is being trapped by CO2.
     
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    Typical Al Gore-esque response. Please ask me to follow the money on those 2 sites, they will lead to the globalist dictators that you support. Go ahead and ignore the facts i have presented, and lead me to psuedo-science
    websites that have no scientific facts. The evidence you have presented is Opinionated LIES!!! No one Believes your nonsense any more. everythig you have said, is being proved as a lie...

    I have no clue why you are supporting this fraud. in the end these people could care less how you die. you are being used...
     
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    From the mouth of the beast...

    You cant deny it when your own people admit what they are doing.

    [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6642758020554799808"]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6642758020554799808[/ame]
     
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    its funny, you come up with 2 Al gore funded websites, to refute my unsurmountable evidence against the hoax.

    YOU CAN BE A DENIER OF THE TRUTH!!!
     
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    Tons of propaganda, I have no doubt.

    Actual peer-reviewed research, we have yet to see the tiniest bit.
     
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    Warming has stopped


    http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/280948/Is-global-warming-over-


     
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    You being paid to spread your filthy lies? i know you are. I'm on to your kind. You come on here, and spread the lies of the Hidden Masters, and expect us to buy it? No thank you Mr. Smith. Your Psi Ops doesn't work with me!!! I'm here to defeat your disinformation. The more people that wake up, the more we will surround you!!

    You're just along for the ride, then when you least expect it, they pull the rug right from under your feet. the only way you will avoid this, is to be one of the worlds top 1% to 2% wealth. You are being used. When the poop hits the fan, you will be dehumanized just like the rest of us. You will be a slave to the Fascists you are promoting with your lies.

    / end rant
     
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    Congress Slamming Al Gore

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNzBRiAyn8o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNzBRiAyn8o[/ame]
     
  23. PatriotNews

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    FYI it also shows a black line that says "Dome C" in black and "Vostok" in green (slightly different results I might add) and then Law Dome" shoots up in blue and then "Mauna Loa" shoots up again in red. But it doesn't shoot up for Vostok or Dome C? Why not?
    Why do the readings for Law Dome and Mauna Loa not go back 8,000 years? How accurate can CO2 readings be when they are taken on an island that has a year round active volcano? Other than that, CO2 has only increased from around 260 ppm to around 370 ppm. (That's parts per million for those of you in Rio Linda). Hey, look at this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
    Seems to have worked for the dinosaurs. I wonder if they were driving around in SUV's to make the CO2 so high. Oh well, it certainly didn't end life on their Earth, as the roamed it for millions and millions of years.

    Oh, and by the way, your graph does not prove that AGW is a fact.

    Which only proves Seitz had a job(s).
     
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    I know it is a lengthy article and don't expect you to read the entire thing. Not only does he provide proof of his allegations, but they conceed his allegations, but deny they are violations of the procedural rules.
    If you want to believe that the Earth is the center of the solar system, knock yourself out.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism
     
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    shoe, other foot.

    anyone who is familiar with this topic knows that.


    oh ... lols - you are pretending to be a denialist conspiracy theorist!

    :-D

    sorry - I thought you were for real!
     
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