LIFE: it begins in the womb

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I call BS. But present facts for your opinion.

    Here is what I found.
    Miscarriage is a term used for a pregnancy that ends on its own, within the first 20 weeks of gestation. The medical terms used to identify this potential complication or loss gives most women an uncomfortable feeling, so throughout this article, we will refer to this type of threatened complication or pregnancy loss under 20 weeks as a miscarriage.
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    Most miscarriages occur during the first 13 weeks of pregnancy. Pregnancy can be such an exciting time, but with the great number of recognized miscarriages that occur, it is beneficial to be informed about miscarriage, in the unfortunate event that you find yourself or someone you know faced with one.
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    http://americanpregnancy.org/pregnancy-complications/miscarriage/

    The only known so far, from my link is within 13 weeks.
    But is called a miscarriage as late as 20 weeks.
     
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  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    God allows people to die from liver disease.
    Ergo humans killing humans isn't wrong?

    Where are you trying to go with that logic?

    Tell you what, if a fetus ever breaks and enters into a woman's body holding a gun, you're welcome to kill it.

    Hmm, that's not what many pro-choicers tell us.
     
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  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You make no sense. Of course you've been told what a fetus is 1 million times. So no need to beat a dead horse. Now go on and continue tell all women how they must live their lives.

    And since most pregnancies go full term, you lie on what pro choicers tell us. Whoever us is.
     
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  4. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm simply saying they shouldn't be allowed to tell other people how to live their lives -- or not live their lives, as the case may be.

    You don't see the hypocrisy in your statement?
    It's as bad as slaveholders telling other people "leave me alone".
     
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  5. dairyair

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    No one, is forced into abortion.
    You want to force women into staying pregnant, when not wanted. And unwanted future child.

    I don't see the hypocrisy, because there is none.
    Now go on and keep telling women how they must live their lives.
     
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  6. FoxHastings

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    BS, Pro-choicers want to protect women's rights to live their lives as they CHOOSE.

    Anti-Choicers are the ones who are trying to FORCE their ideas onto others and tell them how to live.




    You don't see the hypocrisy in your statement.
     
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    The woman is already welcome to kill it....

    When and where have Pro-Choicers said Pregnancy can NOT "be such an exciting time", ?

    I haven't seen a Pro-choicer say pregnancy isn't an exciting time......where'd ya get that bit of crap? :teddy:
     
  8. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The fetus is.

    It might be wanted. There are long lists for parents waiting to adopt, depending on what type of baby it is. Many have to end up settling with one that may not have been their first choice. But you're saying the mother doesn't want it.
     
  9. dairyair

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    When the fetus can take the pregnant mother to court, or raise it's voice in opposition, then they can fight for rights.
    Until then, we'll let those human beings make the decisions.
     
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    Does a person's appendix want to be removed? Shouldn't its rights be considered?
     
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  11. dairyair

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    Many Christians feel it better to put sperm into a whore than to spill it on the ground.
    So, if any male, wasted sperm outside a womb, they killed life.
     
  12. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it had a brain and the woman had injected herself with stem cells causing that appendix to grow in the first place, maybe.

    Come on, pregnancy's only for 9 months. Less than that when you consider many women don't even realize they're pregnant until the second month.

    Imagine a sore wisdom tooth in a child that doctors say will eventually come out on its own.
     
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    I have yet to meet a pro-choices or who doesn’t agree that a wanted pregnancy can be a wonderful time. But once again an extremist makes an outrageous conclusion
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why can it be a wonderful time but the woman is so miserable? Maybe it's not so unbearable then. The woman just has to put her mind in a positive space.
    It would be okay if she was getting something out of it (a baby she wanted), so why should it be so bad if she's not getting anything out of it?
     
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    OOOH, more science fiction! How about Panda Bears From Outer Space?!!

    :roflol: OMYGAWD! You don't think a woman is pregnant until she KNOWS she's pregnant !!


    You think a pregnancy is less than 9 months if the woman doesn't know about it until the second month !!!! WHAT!!!


    Hilariously erroneous and illogical and unscientific and non factual and just plain ridiculous...








    "Panda Bears In Outer Space"
     
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    It only matters if the pregnant woman wants it or not...what others want is their business and they have no right to demand a woman give them what they want...
     
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    WHAT woman is miserable?


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    WHO TF are you to decide what is bearable for someone else...?? Seriously, why do you think YOU rule on what others should bear???

    Want ME to decide what YOU should bear?????








    Goodgawd, WTF was that?
     
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    Is the difference? A brain? So you have no problem with aborting a zygote?
     
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    Let me guess..You are a man who knows absolutely nothing about experiencing a pregnancy. I wish I had heeded your advice when I went through the agony of labor.
     
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    ;) You should've just ""put your mind in a positive space".....says the "expert" :roflol:


    What do you expect from someone who thinks pregnancy is shorter if the woman doesn't know she's pregnant !!!!
     
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    I am going to be nice here in my response and just state - A sperm is alive.

    Have you never heard the term "live sperm" ... as opposed to "dead" ?
     
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    So those who claim "Life; it begins in the womb" are lying or just ignorant?
     
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    The fetus is not "someone". It's not a person. The most you can say is that it is a human fetus.
     
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    Most are just ignorant - as evidenced by some of the comments in this thread - some however are abject liars.
     
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    I don't know but it's obvious they have no point when they say it.

    So what if life started a million years ago or today in the womb.....


    I always ask them if life starts in the womb does that mean the parents were dead? But I never get an answer ;)
     

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