Live Trump at Mount Rushmore for 4th of July celebration.

Then what such a speech should do is this: Should I really align myself with pond scum? If the choice is between the American Family, and a bunch of anarchists who've shunned themselves from the vast majority of middle-class Americans then my choice is the American Family every time.

The President drew the line, that many of us hoped someone in state or local government would do. Unfortunately, they didn't do it. People, unfortunately, died because they didn't do it. Teenagers were ****ing killed and shot at because they didn't do it.

So the President did do it. He drew a line, then he backed it up with an executive order. So yes, they are pond scum. We are proud to call them pond scum. Even if the President loses this election, they're still pond scum. We just have to figure out how to survive the anarchist takeover if it comes to that.(Because Biden isn't going to enforce law as President. I mean, we already hear them talking about not calling law enforcement when one of them are openly committing a crime.)

Just remember this: Trump supporters didn't ask for this, Trump himself didn't ask for this. It was the reaction to George Floyd's death that caused sleeper cell anarchists to arise in the country and instead of rejecting them, a lot of members of the opposing party called it the "summer of love".

When their job was to govern for all of us, they turned their backs on us too. Trump didn't.

 

Is this all you have left?

 

So the entirety of the Democratic party and voters are evil, radical and violent? I understand him making a point of criticizing and labeling rioters and looters. But the whole 'left'? Do you really see the people who vote for Democrats as pond scum?

 

One of the reasons people don't take Dr. Fauci seriously is because so few people know anybody who has gone to the hospital or even had any COVID-Wuhan symptoms. It's all just a big deal on the TV, which is meaningless.

 

So the 130,000 dead so far are a hoax?
Reminds me of the Holocaust deniers.
Who are you trying to protect?

 

Not at all. Thousands of Democrats helped put Trump in office. The Democratic party has been hijacked by the loonies. One minute of Pelosi, Omar, Sanders, Talib, or Occasional Cortex will confirm that fact.

 

To the extent that moderates(like myself) remain in the Democratic Party(which has to be few and far between at this point), they're not pond scum. But there isn't moderate democracy left. Nancy Pelosi's rabid decline has shown the future of the party, and where it's headed.

Beyond that, as a blue dog democrat it is clear that the democratic party has failed by all accounts to live up to its standards of social reform. It bragged about taking a 'Republican' health care plan, even as that plan was rejected by the majority and even though they knew that a better plan would involve a public option.

It brags about a colorless America, while still clinging to the trope of Southern hillbillies clinging to their guns and religion and being racist.

Social security has failed/is failing
Medicare is bankrupt.
And these are all pre-Covid stressors. What's going to happen to public programs as more people get sick?

What's so painfully obvious to me, as a former Democrat is that Democrats had major legislative power from the '60s-'90s, then they split Congress in the 2000's. And even with all of that power, the Democrats have failed to usher in a "prosperous" democratic era.

It could, of course, be that democracy as a whole doesn't work at all(which is my position now and has been of the past 5-6 years), but even if it were to work it couldn't work with such a dysfunctional and adversarial party like the Democratic Party which thrives on chaos and identity politics.

 

In a country of 329,000,000 that ain't a much. Hardly anybody knows anybody that has been sick from coronavirus. For most people it's just a thing on TV.

 

You forgot the Traitor Garden for Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, etc. How about Stone Mountain at the site?

There is a lot of material he can choose from...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Confederate_monuments_and_memorials

Trump should hurry because only has until January 20, 2021.

 

I don't know anyone that's had a heart attack, but I know I don't want one.
I know someone that has it and was in my house. For me it's a death sentence, so it changes your perspective.
Two more days in quarantine. Still waiting for a call from my local contact tracer.

 

We're still locked down ourselves. But we're at high risk because of age. If I were young I would tell 'em go to hell.

 

Please forward your comments to utopia.

 

You're holding up Russia as a country we should emulate?

 

What do you think?

Just answer plainly.

 

Why couldn't we do as well as British Columbia (5m people)?



Where did we go wrong?

 

I applaud Russia making Russian the national language for their country, but I disapprove of the gay restrictions. The whole LBGT thing and the abortion thing is the same deal: People make choices. People might not agree with those choices, they might even think those choices are abhorrent. But it's still THEIR choice to make.

The right should also aim for consistency if the complaint is that the left is inconsistent. If the right claims limited government, then the government must inherently be limited. Now, there's a time where public choices do harm the public health but even risky sexual behavior for example only affects the individuals who engage in that behavior. Unlike COVID, HIV/AIDS do not have widespread community risk.

By the same token, Abortion doesn't carry any community risk(or mostly health risk, though there's benefits for women to carrying to term, namely developing receptors that protect against breast cancer and other health benefits.) Abortion is largely a moral argument. We want kids to grow and develop to become adults, and as far as the point of conception is concerned, a fetus is a human life(Democrats actually agree with this, every time they charge a double murder.)

The issue then(as far as I see it, becomes), is it morally justified to force that human life on an unwilling couple? If a couple(or a woman) isn't comfortable raising a child, we have more than enough child abusers in our world let's not make anymore by forcing them to care for a child they don't care to raise.

Of course, it's more nuanced than that because it isn't just the decision to have an abortion, it's the decision making process in abortion. "My body, my rights" completely ignores the other half of the equation that made the fetus. In the ideal, perfect world it should be a 50/50 collaborative decision, it isn't. In some ways, this is understandable. A man might say he wants to be a father today, but a year or two into the actual parenting, gives up on it.(The same is true for the female at times too)

But for the man who does want to be a father, but the mother doesn't want to be a mother. He doesn't have recourse.(Oh, and we haven't even touched the beautiful irony of a girl trapping a dude into saying she's on the pill, or slipping the condom out because SHE wants to be a mother, but the father doesn't want to be a father.)

So abortion is essentially the moral death throes argument. There's a bunch of moral considerations that simply have to be resolved, and the current status quo is unacceptable. But it's better than the alternative(no abortions at all.) until we think of that proper solution.

 

And what do your liberal friends think of Trump?

 

What exactly are you threatening?

 

South Dakota is almost 90% white and 10% Native American Indian. The Indians put on a big counter-protest. The crowd at the event was fairly well representative of the state's population. So there's that.

 

What exactly are you inferring?

 

The event was enjoyable. I was also impressed with Governor Noem.

Happy Independence Day!!!

 

You better listen to what @Pants said, instead of doubling down and jumping onto the Trump "us vs. them" bandwagon. Why? Because the rioters and looters just took advantage of the legitimate and peaceful protesters. The looters are in no way reflective of everyone to the left of Trump, no matter how much he wants to portray it that way. Trying to tear the nation apart with his "us vs. them" strategy may be red meat to the base, but it is a good way to destroy the nation and the Republican party, We are ALL Americans, not just the ones who worship at the altar of Trump.

 

It's the other way around too. We're ALL Americans, not just the ones who "protest"(I don't see legitimate and peaceful protesters. If they were legitimate and peaceful, they would've been able to point out the violent actors and denounce them). They didn't. And not just the ones who support Joe Biden to be the President.

But that's not what we heard for 3 years. For three years, a lot of Americans were "deplorables". If this is Trump's "deplorable" moment, then the left is only finally getting what it dished out. And if the left can't take that, if it hurts that much to be shunned and rejected by other Americans then maybe we should all(including Trump) take a lesson from that.

 

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I know one person who got Corona (and had symptoms for all of one day). I know one person who committed suicide after being laid off by my company due to the shutdown, I know two others who businesses were destroyed by the shutdown. The cure appears to be worse than sickness from where I am sitting. If there is a lockdown 2.0, that will be the end for my company and its 500 employees. The Democrats can go to hell if they think we will allow them to do a shutdown 2.0. They are a bunch of sociopaths trying to harm as many middle class Americans as possible in order to win a friggin election. It is the most disgusting thing I have witnessed in my lifetime.