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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A rare number of us here know history going back to the 1930 era. Not because a teacher assigned that era to us, but we lived it. We recall WW2. We recall the passion America had when attacked. When I was a child clear into grade school, I do not remember eating cereal as breakfast. My mind is a blank on cereal until the end of WW2 when I first saw cereal sold in the store. Mom served us Oats and Cream of Wheat as I recall. In the late 40s, my aunt caused me to despise eggs for some years due to her serving us eggs for breakfast and lunch.

    Ask us. We know the story. Based on things said by Democrats, it seems they do not know the story, they never were interested in the story., Ask us.
     
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    No, that is the absolute worst way to learn about anything. I'll stick to history books and scholarship.
     
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    Democrats want to make banking boring again, not to dissimilar from what you have described. But what you just described is NOT what banking is. Banks are indeed a storage of wealth in the form of capital, yes, and they give out loans on interest to finance the cost of the debt. All well and good. But, in today's REAL capitalism, banks do far more than that. They spy on you first of all to help corporations better consume so that they can use financial instruments such as credit cards in order to fund ever increasing amounts of America's consumption. There is over a trillion dollars worth of credit card debt in America and climbing. Banks have also become the gatekeepers of academia and turning it into a vast money making scheme of debt you cannot bankrupt out of, with debt over 1.5 trillion to the banks. And then you have all the different kinds of banks, Goldman Sachs for instance is dealing with collaborating with governments to restructure debt in order to fiddle with economic numbers for the purposes of some treaty, such as the Maastricht Treaty. There is a vast shadoe banking system which we have little transparency into that our current banking system relies on too, as well as the debt-loop China and the US made to maximize the amount of debt created capital America could produce to buy consumer goods from China. That kept America afloat for a bit, but now that Trump is attacking that the economy is finished and we will likely have sovereign debt crises in dozens if not hundreds of countries along with currency crises and inflation, we are heading towards a depression worse and more global than the great depression, and it will be tied to the global banking system which saw itself as the answer for everything, but ultimately required too much from a future they were destroying.
     
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    We have not rioted in the city nor burned down the merchants stores. We are not wearing Pelosi hats either. We woke up to the still Republican held Congress. Yep, Democrats must wait until next year to take over the House.I will sleep well. Knowing that the Democrats have to leap over Trump and that is not possible. The Senate is not interested in what the Democrats want. Trump has nothing for the Pelosi group. She will whine again.
     
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    No way your apparent biases could be influencing that narrative, no way, listen to me.
     
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    Love it, Capitalists are all like, "we haven't attacked private property." Its your pillaging of the poor and the planet that pisses me off, and inspires anarchists to do such drastic things which I disagree with. But I get it.
     
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    Trump said that in a private conversation.

    Beto said it in front of the national media, on camera.
     
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    Oh please....you are fooling nobody with this sanctimonious pearl clutching....

     
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    Banks are exactly as I described. While true I did not perform a lecture on the entirety of Banks, what I said is accurate.

    We hand Banks our cash. That is what they spy on. Can our cash prove what we believe about politics? Well banks can sure know who we support with cash.

    One more time. The issue was housing. And you posted things about banks to think over. But my thrust was both Bush and Housing. Bush is attacked over Housing. Bush does not deserve to be attacked over Housing.
     
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    Actually this nation has living experts on a variety of topics. I can show you history books too. Do you believe those scholars?

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    On the contrary, the bush administration directly blocked attempts by the SEC to regulate hedge funds and mutual funds, and these regulations would have had a profound impact on ameliorating the devaluation of inflated securities.

    But don't get me wrong, there is plenty of blame to go around.
     
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    Probably none... but at least we are now a part of the solution instead of a cog in the problem..
     
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    Not really. The Democrats winning the house is the same as Republicans winning it under Obama. Let's dig up the old videos of him complaining about a Congress that just blocks everything...
     
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    Banks are accountable. Banks to follow the safe path wanted loans accepted to Fannie and Freddie. Fannie and Freddie, unknown by what Democrats allege, were the rule makers over the housing loan market.

    A bank to deviate best hold the loan or risk that Fannie or Freddie would refuse to purchase said loans.

    I do not expect the press, nor the Democrats to understand the housing market nor understand banks either. But the best thing for them to do is shut up and ask experts.

    Some refuse to blame the legislators unless those happen to be republicans. But I also blame courts for the mess faced by the housing industry.

    Some think Banks were eager to get into the housing loan business. That is sheer nonsense.

    Why would banks want into a low interest rate housing market when they had the captured market for consumer loans? Loans to buy cars, boats and more are more profitable to banks than are home loans. Also they are shorter in duration. The risk window is narrower.

    Democrats never explain that.

    In my mortgage lender market, if you wanted a large boat, your loan was on your home and what you used it for was up to you and your business. A cash out loan was a bit more difficult than a loan to be used when you sold home A to buy home B and the proceeds went to home B.
     
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    Nancy Pelosi just concluded a bragging session and we will hear her whining after she is sworn in after the new year. She is still the out of power Nancy for 2 more months.
     
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    Which, as you may or may not recall, they used to their advantage. Investigation after investigation (all fruitless) still convinced people that there was merit to the allegations being investigated. They were able to obstruct and sabotage, then blame Obama for "getting nothing done". You seem to underestimate the significance of this.
     
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    None is accurate. Democrats could have been part of the solution these last 2 years. It was their choice not to be part of the solution.
     
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    Sure that's a fine comparison. However, the Democrats have no one to beat Trump in 2020 and steal swing states and rural votes in counties that he earned.

    If they run Warren in 2020...it's just handing Trump the swing states and major counties that matter.

    If they run someone like Gabbard...they could pull off a victory.

    I see them running Biden or Warren (anyone a slave to the DNC) though.
     
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    And the GOP had nobody to beat Obama in 2012.
     
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    Frankly Democrats did a lot more investigation. All investigations we performed were due to national security or deaths due to assignments managed by Democrats.

    What about those long winded bullshit investigations done to target G.W. Bush? How soon the investigators forgot what we remember.
     
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    Okay...
     
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    Nonsense.

    Signed,

    Daryl Issa
     
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    To be fair, Romney in that election warned Obama of the dangers of Russia. I'll post the video of Obama's response. Most now understand that Romney was right, and Obama was wrong. Only the extremists will still defend Obama here:

     
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    True, but that was rhetorical sparring. Obama had the entire state department, intelligence community, and military keeping him abreast of Russia's actions. Obama's "reset button" was a rhetorical device that laid Russia and its motivations bare. While Trump's overtures to russia seem nefarious and self serving, Obama's were strategic.
     
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    That doesn't make any sense.

    You're claiming Romney was just way smarter than the entire US government? Do you remember where he got his facts from? It starts with "House of....THIS".

    Obama literally laughed and said the Cold War is over.

    Now either he's too stupid...or he wasn't concerned about the threat. Romney was concerned.

    Which is why Wolfe and other liberal talk show hosts have admitted that Romney was right. Happy to cite some CNN articles.
     
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