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  1. Mamasaid

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    No, please re read. I am saying Obama was well aware of the threat of Russia. Obama took a rhetorical stance that was strategic. Romney took the opposite, for campaign reasons. The two would have worked together on Russia, in the end. Obama exposed Russia. Romney will likely benefit politically from this, going forward.
     
  2. ArmySoldier

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    Where are your sources that he merely took that side because of "campaign reasons"? He was RIGHT. He was the correct individual in that debate. HE used intelligence from the intel committee. Do you want the full video? I just gave you the short version.
     
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    Again, not really what i mean. I mean that it was counter rhetoric for campaign reasons. Obama and Romney weer really of a like mind on Russia.
     
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    No, that's incorrect. Obama laughed at Romney's claims. The Claims he received from the intel committee which comes from the military. The fact that Obama laughed and denied it was insulting to anyone with a brain. Russia took full advantage of Obama after that election ended. Ask Ukraine how that election played out for them. Syria? Our election process?
     
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    Get this straight... TRUMP HAS NO SOLUTIONS... never has... never will.. his own Senate had no idea what he was for or against... but now at least the country stands a chance at lifting the cover off of this sewer.. if that is accomplished, this wont be the most useless 2 years in Congressional history...
     
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    It will be the most useless 2 years in congressional history. The Dems House will investigate Trump...THEN the Repub senate will investigate the Dem investigations. All of the sudden it's 2020...

    This is going to be the biggest do-nothing Congress.
     
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    You think all the Social Media are being primarily mined for political purposes? Facebook took the biggest hit in history when they said their algorithms wouldnt be giving out all their customer information to advertisers so freely. A lot of consumption was generated by Social Media on purpose, through social engineering learned at places like Stanford.

    And the issue was this banking is the solution to everything mentality, which was the brainchild of both politicians and bankers working in collaboration. You don't have the subprime mortgage crisis without the corresponding CDO scheme to cover for that risk, and the lies Wall Street told in order to boost insane confidence and low risk to these actually very risky financial products. A few poor people defaulting wouldn't cause a global meltdown, no it was because they were packaged into tranches in the CDOs with other mortgages and threw interest rates through the roof that caused more and more to default.
     
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    Trump solutions are currently working. What you should worry about is why won't Nancy keep her promises?

    Because she can't. She is up shytcreek with no paddle.
     
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    I don't remotely worry about Congresswoman Pelosi and you shouldn't either... Schiff and Cummings are another story...
     
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    These people won't know about this at all, but I recall the Chrysler auto ads of 1957.

    Suddenly it's 1960. This was the era of the first auto fins by american auto makers.

    Democrats refuse to learn using history.

     
  11. Robert

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    I know all about chicken Schiff and lostman Cummings.
     
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    Let me try one more time given i am the expert on this topic.

    Due to what you added in, I shall address your problem.

    Poor quality loans are not news. Nor were they news by 1960 or 1970 or later in 2000 or in 2007.

    Bank and government economists did a lot of experiments on poor loans.

    If you only learned your history on loans for homes.

    I was forced to learn this to get licenses. It was not a history that i felt I must know, it was crammed down my throat.Not starting in 2008 but in 1971. I knew a lot about bad loans for homes well before 2008.

    As early as 1972 I counseled my clients on such loans. Why in 1972? First I sold homes using no down payment loans that had no requirement the buyer pay closing costs. And the rates charged were higher than those of 2008.

    It was 1980 that I created the sleeping mortgage plan for buyers. Talk about so called bad loans.

    But those were awesome loans. First i preserved underlying FHA and VA loans with their 7 percent rates. I then created out of air, a loan with no payments. It was a 5 year loan carried back by sellers to be paid in full at the conclusion of the 5 years. It was per a number of buyers too risky for them. Others more intelligent used this scheme.

    Also I would create the second mortgage. My sleeper was the carry back by sellers that had no monthly payments. The second was either a loan by a bank with payments and 15 year terms or something just the same by a non bank.

    The buyers ended up paying monthly on the cheap first loan and the higher cost 2nd loan. It actually was exciting to see sellers actually able to sell a home. Sellers could not sell to others due to the prevailing super rates charged then by lenders. I mean rates into the above 15 percent rate.

    What risk was there a zero down and no closing costs would default?

    First how much skin in the game did the VA person have? Nothing at all. If times got tough, and believe me tough times were no invention by Bush, how did the Vet keep up house payments? He had no cushion provided by a down payment. He got all loan.

    And if you drift off again to banks recall it is housing.

    History is a teacher. Guess who invented the no money down loan and no payment of closing cost loans?

    Well if you said Democrats you are accurate.
     
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    Probably the same 2 I was referencing, without the 6 year old name calling.

    Good then... you wont be surprised by the proceedings next year
     
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    You are correct. I am remiss for acting like a Democrat.

    Congress will be frozen next year. Democrats will promise but will take a nap for 2 years.
     
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    You only sold loans, that doesnt make you an expert on how the bankers dealt with the risk of those loans as is evidenced by your poor understanding of the financial crisis. Subprime loans were not new, duh, that wasn't my contention. The instruments which sold the loans to investment bankers and investors via CDOs was what unleashed the subprime mortgage market. They knew many of these loans would default, but because the bank already sold the debt, and was insured by institutions like AIG they were thought to be protected. Especially since the loans were packaged with better quality (so they said) mortgages. None of what you said addresses the instruments used to create the CDOs and Synthetic CDOs which collapsed as a result of the housing bubble which took down the economy. You are arrogantly assuming you are an expert on the whole economy, when in reality you sold homes and were just one part of it and clearly are a biased poster with little expertise in the financial industry. Not impressed one bit.
     
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    Not in committees with subpoena power, they wont... but if worst comes to worst, they can just quote Mitchy the Kid for an inability to get Bill's passed... he made that real easy
     
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    Pretty much. It's a "YUGE" victory to them that we got 'diversity'. Regardless of whether or not they actually prove effective. I hope, for the good of country they will but when your primary objective is to 'check Trump'(in spite of the fact that the current Congress had him pretty well checked), I don't think much will be accomplished by this current Congress.

    People like Ayanna and Cortez for example are prime pickings in 2020, both inexperienced and lacking in much political thought, they will be as empty as they were during the campaign. Don't write off districts, do what Democrats did in the Rouke race. Pour money in these "leaning left" districts.
     
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    Either way, Democrats are still only a few Me Too moments away from losing all that power. Heck with record number of women in Congress, the odds of Democrats mucking it up are rather high. That would be an ironic result to these midterms, although purely speculation at this point...
     
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    Yeah, it did, Mamasaid.

    The government permitted the banks to make such mortgages.
     
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    With the record number of women in Congress, the Congress has an increased probablility of getting things right for a change.
     
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    With Democrats in charge? :mrgreen:
     
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    Yessss..... investigate!!! Subpoena!!! Inpeeeeech!!! And if any time left... introduce new taxes!!! :hiding:
     
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    But what does that tell us about the kind of people who live in the congressional districts of Cortez and Ayanna ?
    Are they just a reflection of low information Californians ?
     
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    And New Yorkers. Like, holy hell we knew NY is blue but why elect someone utterly unqualified for the position of the House?
     
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    How about a link to the post you're responding to?
     

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