Liz vs Donny in 2020

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  1. FinalPhilosopher

    FinalPhilosopher Newly Registered

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    As I have said, Liz will be challenging Donny in 2020.
    Although Biden is leading the polls, he won't be nominated because everybody knows he is in the pocket of the Chinese. Donny gave him a well-deserved nickname: ChinaJoe. His political life is done.

    Lately, Sanders has made the same mistake. He praised the Chinese government saying they have done a great deal for their people and their leaders are good people. Obviously, he has lost his mind. At the end of the day, he is a sympathizer of America's biggest enemy, a totalitarian regime. There is no way American people will elect such a blockhead to be their president.
     
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    I think that Liz will really struggle intersectionally. She's an old New England white professor from Harvard whose campaign conveniently and prominently released evidence showing she is one of the whitest people in the United States. Her claim to fame is being female, but white women voted 58% for Trump, so she has effectively nothing.

    That's a real problem in today's Democratic Party.

    I think she also has a real likability problem. Professional academic Presidents have historically been a special breed - to the learned individual technocracy looks appealing.

    She's certainly very intelligent and articulate in her support for ever greater bureuacracy. She would be a threat in any normal election, but I don't think in 2020 she would be able to get the various factions of the Democratic Party to all come out and vote. Rightly or wrongly I don't think she'd stand up well to Trump's rhetoric.

    The Trump campaign's motto will be "Warren has a 1/64 to 1/1024 chance of winning the Presidency". What campaign can stand up in the public view against such dank, dank memes?

    Harris would be more threatening to Trump once the primaries are done.

    All the public employees and social science academics following Warren will support Harris anyway.

    Biden will smash it with swing voters and independents.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I cant/wont vote for Warren. If its her then I have limited choices: vote trump (99%) or 3rd party (1%) over warren (0%)

    I can skip the debates, Commercials. discussions completely
     
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    Wrong!

    Only 52% of white women voted for the BLOTUS in 2016.

    https://edition.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

    However OVERALL your BLOTUS LOST the female vote with a mere 42% of them overall.

    Women make up the LARGEST voting bloc of all and there was a significantly larger number of women who voted in the Midterms AGAINST your BLOTUS.

    In essence he will LOSE amongst women because his appeal among them has gone down SIGNIFICANTLY since 2016.
     
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    It's about time for America to have a lady president, a historic change.
    Madam President Warren, cool!
     
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    She's an OKLAHOMAN!!!!
     
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    Of course you're right. They didn't. It was the Electoral College that put that retarded idiot in the White House.
     
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    My apologies that I was a couple of percent off in remembering off the top of my head how a specific race and gender of voter in a foreign country voted 3 years ago.

    My mistake.

    And 52% is still majority support, so my point stands. Progressives can't trust white women every election. Certainly at a minimum white women are far down the intersectional heirarchy. Below everyone except white men and Asian men.

    Also, I wouldn't claim victory on white women in 2016, it was an even split 49/49 with 2 voting minor parties or independent candidates.
     
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    ==
     
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    The fake indian has already lost to DJT45.

    Its just that lots of dems are pretending they don't know it yet.
     
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    Trump’s only pathway in 2020 is to convince enough voters his opponent is a cross between Hillary Clinton, Methuselah, and the worst of his Twitter welding self.

    Essentially depress turnout.

    His coalition is non-college educated white men and big monied interests. The latter is what Dems need to worry about.

    The R’s need to worry about the President becoming so unhinged and frantic about his shrinking coalition they become too ugly and negative with all that cash that they even give pause to non-college educated white men.

    If Warren is the D-nominee we need to watch the behavior of big monied interests. They’ll be running scared. Fearing fear itself should produce some real strange behavior.
     
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    Someone should tell Trump that big moneyed interests are Democrat constituents. If he's waiting around for big moneyed interests like Steyer, Soros and the Hollywierdos, he'll be waiting a long time.
     
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    Trump is raising record amounts.

    He never stopped running for POTUS.
     
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    Everyone i know owns a gun and will vote trump. Period.
     
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    Huge amounts from small donors. Average was reported as $34.26.
     
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    And whats the total amount?

    Its all win for Trump yo.

    Dems are struggling to fund raise.
     
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    CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $124,847,044

    OUTSIDE MONEY: $64,102,614
     
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    Name ALL of the things that your BLOTUS has done FOR women since he began infesting the Oval office.

    Name ALL of the REASONS why women will vote for your BLOTUS in 2020.
     
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    Anecdotes are MEANINGLESS!
     
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    So are your fake news polls.
     
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    Because a majority of white women did in 2016 despite the same genderbaiting nonsense from the Dem side. Nothing has changed, ergo I expect a comparable majority.

    What are the Dems going to do to get the male vote?
     
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    Liz is from Oklahoma..
     
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    The president is not elected by the masses only by a select few and that is not democracy.
     
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    I think you're correct, as least as it looks now, that Warren will probably be the Democratic nominee. If she is, as one of 9 million voters who voted third party back in 2016, against both Trump and Clinton. I'll be voting third party once again, against both Warren and Trump.

    I'd say looking at the very favorable's and very unfavorable's of Warren against Trump, she'll have a hard time in the South and Midwest, but the Northeast and West is all hers. But these are early numbers, they don't mean much this far out. Although they do provide an idea of what may lie ahead. The key word there is "may."

    I'm probably one of a very few where candidates matter. I only vote for candidates I like and want to see as president or senator or representative, etc.
     
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    Like you I have also said from the get-go that Elizabeth Warren was pre-selected -- as is their tradition -- by the corrupt to the core DNC to become the nominee in 2020. Meanwhile Joe Biden is knowingly functioning as their temporary front runner place holder; the guy on point getting hit first in the face with GOP directed pies. He's suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous political fortune while behind the scenes DNC operatives are meeting with Warren and continuing to groom her to take over the lead. The leftist allied MSM may or may not be aware of this reality, but they are ideologically OWNED by the DNC and so when the time rolls around the DNC will inform their bosses that they now worship Elizabeth Warren . . . and then the real presidential contest will begin.
     

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