London is Now More Violent Than New York City

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    It's as good as.
    You only said that when you could have named names and parties.
    You may as well have said it given your view of Tory Blair.
    The Pinko crook who's wasn't Pinko enough for you, so you brand him as right wing, forgetting what that bastard did to fuel benefits culture Britain.
     
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    That wouldn't be true would it? Those right wing regimes have included both Tory and Labour goverment.

    Maintaining Thatcherism is right wing. It wouldn't be cunning to suggest otherwise. And Thatcherism does fuel benefits: from the waste of North Sea oil receipts on unemployment to the creation of housing crisis.
     
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    Thank you for your concern, but like quite a few other things, you got that wrong.
    I don't live in the UK and I'm very sure they can handle their domestic politics by themselves without meaningless and empty generalities disguised as 'advice.'
     
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    Yeah they're doing a great job with the double digit crime increases.

    Clearly they need to continue on the current path.
     
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    “These latest figures indicate that levels of crime have continued to fall compared with the previous year". The Crime Survey for England and Wales doesn't point to any significant deterioration.
     
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    Said the newspaper campaignng for increased government spending and indeed a change of government.
    If RT said it, would you believe it?

    You do know who The Guardian is right?
     
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    I'm sure I didn't mention any of that, but if you think the British government needs your personal help and advice, feel free to get in touch with them.
     
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    Actually without Thatcher we would probably would never have had the benefit culture. She chose not to use North Sea oil money to invest in our infrastructure but instead deliberately made vast numbers of people unemployed. She hoped this would result in them being willing to work for a pittance. What happened was their Unions noticed they got depressed and told them to go to their Dr's and from that came the long term unemployment which Thatcher used the vast proceeds of North Sea Oil to fund. Prior to Thatcher being unemployed was something people wanted to avoid. It was not socially acceptable. Unemployment benefit worked in providing an opportunity for someone to get a job which was what it was created for. During those years we expected governments to provide full employment. In some ways the UK through Thatcher went through what the white working class in the US is going through now. Had she invested in our oil money and invested in our country then we would be in much better shape now. Instead she wanted to invest only in service industries and in finance and that is about all there is now and what with us leaving the EU.....
     
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    To be fair, the Labour/Tory politicians involved made bucket loads of dosh through privatisation and liberalisation of the finance industry. It was rational, at least for their bank managers!
     
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    New York has been doing well. Crime has been going down for decades now. Or at least, that's how they tell it.
     
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    So, New York City is now safer than London, would be just as apt but with less scaremongering.
     
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    You need more info to support that. Perhaps compare the National Crime Victimisation Survey with Crime Survey for England and Wales? A quick comparison of homicide, says London at 130 and New York at near 300.
     
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    This IS a thread that says the same thing as what I said but only in reverse, you can see that, right?
    Point is, New York City's a safer city & London isn't Bradford.
    This threadline (headline) is a lot more dead donkey/unimportant news for news sake piece of news.
     
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    Its a thread that doesn't say anything really. Evidence always should be presented with crime, otherwise we just have knuckle dragging grunt on a par with those giving comments on Yahoo! news stories
     
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    What's Wrong With The UK?

    https://www.steynonline.com/8547/diversity-unto-death-literally

    quotes from the link:

    "America's traditionally high and England and Wales's traditionally low murder rates are remorselessly converging."

    "Ten years ago, signing up a primary-school child for "gender re-assignment" was a radical position. Then it became received opinion. Now it's illegal to disagree with it."
     
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    You believe it is the law on gender reassignment which all the gangs are killing each other over?
     
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    Labour's Mayor Said Khan has a lot to answer for for the lack of police in London.
     
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    Most of these incidents are concentrated in East London, especially Hackney, which is known for high crime rates. I think a lot of teenagers in the borough carry knives and pick a fight on a regular basis. The London Olympics were held in East London to revitalize the deprived area.

     
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