Long Island restaurant 'canceled' for flying Trump flag

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Do you support her using her using her position on social media in an attempt to destroy a mans business because she disagrees with his support for our president?
    It’s a yes or no question
     
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    So did the NFL think it through?
    That aside do you support this woman’s attempt to destroy a mans business because she doesn’t like his politics?
    It’s a yes or no question.
     
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    That is the conversation and this woman’s threat and attempted intimidation is an example if it
     
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    stupid of a business to do this... he better hope he gains trump supporters as will lose anyone that doesn't support Trump - never smart for a business to alienate half their customers

    and per Trump that is everyone

    "‘Nobody Likes Me,’ Trump Complains"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/us/politics/trump-nobody-likes-me-walks-out-briefing.html

    maybe Trump should take note of that and try to be a better person for once in his life
     
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    BS. Either one is for a free flow and exchange of ideas, acknowledging others points of view and giving them space to express them unmolested or one isn't.

    It's interesting Professor that you create from whole cloth a generalization to justify molesting someone expressing a political preference that you don't agree with.

    Rather inelegant, you first ascribed to the many that don't adore Trump a visceral hatred, then justify that conjured emotion by further conjuring a divisive thrill in someone displaying a campaign sign.

    Wow.

    Dude, if it doesn't bother the cows it shouldn't bother you.
     
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    It’s a petty and vindictive response from her. I don’t like it.

    However, it is legal. She is exercising her 1A rights just as much as he is. And you are overblowing her “position on social media”. Everyone who has a Facebook page is an administrator of a Facebook page.

    Sounds to me like he has a business decision to make - whether he wants to inject his personal politics into his business or not. But that decision comes with consequences. Maybe it will increase business. Maybe it will have no effect. Maybe it will reduce business. It’s entirely his call.

    I am pretty sure that if someone opened a coffee shop with some “pro choice” posters on the walls, I expect there would be a pretty quick conservative effort to do everything they could to shut it down.
     
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    meanwhile, republicans when they hate a store make up lies about them like PizzaGate
     
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    the business choose to be pro-Trump, so yes, I support her free speech right to talk about in on social media... just like we are doing here

    will it ruin his business, maybe, sure those that do not support Trump will stop going there, but maybe he will get more Trump supporters now... only time will tell if this was a smart business move by the owner

    good or bad... the blame lies squarely in the hands of the business
     
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    Yes.

    Nothing you said has anything to do with my argument or my issue with the left on this matter. I've stated it multiple times and everybody who responds twists it into something else. Don't quote me if you aren't going to respond to what I say.
     
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    So just whining then. Ok
    Cheers
     
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    This is simply an example of a much larger issue. There's nothing wrong with talking about this underlying issue here.

    But you clearly have no response, so I guess we're done here.
     
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    Says the one who can't even respond to a post.
     
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    Attempting to destroy someone’s business because you disapprove of their politics is not freedom of speech.
    I’m no lawyer and I don’t know if it’s in any way illegal but I do know it’s how Marxist worldwide operate and we should all be cognizant of this Marxist tactic being implemented by the left in our country and should shine the light of day on it.
     
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    Is that not her right to do so?
    You are siding with his beliefs against hers. Why not let both parties do as they see fit.

    If a business can deny services to its customers then its customers should be allowed to deny service to the business...

    The right has turned sharply against free speech lately for some reason.
     
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    the NFL choose not to support bad cops.... they may lose business from those that support bad cops, only time will tell if a bad business choice

    NASCAR chose not to support the Confederacy, they may lose business from those that support the Confederacy, only time will tell if a bad business choice
     
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    Isn't it convenient how they want to hide behind the law but when it comes to BLM, rioting, etc.......Orange Law Bad.
     
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    She has the perfect right to take her business elsewhere but a line is crossed when she attempted to destroy his business
     
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    Nobody supports bad cops. If you have to post a lie to make a point, you have no point.
     
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    The left derides the constitution and the Bible but use both in a piece meal fashion when it suits their needs
     
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    so what is the NFL supporting exactly that the right is against, please explain?
     
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    This has literally nothing to do with Marxism.

    As for organised boycotts, don’t pretend this only happens on one side of the political spectrum. Conservatives do it too.

    https://www.google.ch/amp/s/www.bus...ycott-brands-keurig-nfl-starbucks-2017-11?amp
     
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    What part would you like me to respond to?
    “Bullshit. Kaepernick sucked so nobody wanted him. Happens to lots of players every single year. Kaepernick wasn't special.”
    Could care less but the numerous times trump and his supporters have said they are done with a particular sport or brand because people dared to kneel shows this statement is hardly the basis of the issue.

    “Every time a business owner doesn't fall in line with the left they want their livelihood destroyed’”
    Just like republicans

    “their ability to support their family, feed their kids, etc destroyed. I guess all Trump supporters should starve to death according to the tolerant left.”
    Shrug, did y’all believe the constant trolling and mocking by the right would occur in a vacuum? You get what you give

    “I think there was this political movement in germany 80 or so years ago that felt similarly to the modern day left....can't think of what they were called though.”
    The policies of the right more closely resemble that time than the left — they are definitely going down a similar path (police state, misinformation, propaganda, authoritarianism, demanding loyalty to party over country — but I would argue anyone that is saying anything in America is “similar” to the Holocaust is probably a partisan hack that cannot come up with points of their own.

    Is that enough response to your nonsense?
     
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    The buggabo is that some think that it's ok to treat a fellow countryman derisively, with the intent to cause harm, for expressing a political preference.

    Further, the default to extremes in labeling people with different views is small minded at best. Letting that small-minded nature within all of us dictate our public discourse is a flaw that requires discipline to correct within ourselves. Acknowledging that people can have different views and still be smart, moral and virtuous is the minimum intellectual discipline necessary for a democratic republic to function.

    Get it together bro.
     
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    What line was crossed?

    Is what she is doing illegal? Is it any different than the president of the US trying to destroy certain sports and event’s because they don't bow to him? I must have missed you complaining then...
     
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    Obviously you have no idea how Marxist operate.
    In the early stages it’s intimidation tactics such as occurred with this pizza shop owner. As it progresses those who dissents from the party line lose jobs, housing, healthcare and ultimately after the party gets strong enough are sent off to re-education camps.
     
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