Bill O'reilly's accuser cited the way he looked at her as sexual harassment. The thresh-hold for sexual harassment is pretty low. I guess when you are in the presence of a woman you must avert your eyes.
“He always walked past my desk and he made like a grunting noise,” Burgess said, though she initially brushed it off as a muscle spasm. “As time went on, I noticed if no one was around he would make that noise.” Burgess noted that he would continue to eye her up-and-down while she sat at her desk, but she refused to give him any sort of attention. She also noted that O’Reilly had no reason to be at her desk was. “he walks past and says, ‘Hey, hot chocolate.’ But he doesn’t look at me when he said it.” She added that she had never responded him and that O’Reilly would only address her in a demeaning matter, refusing to ever acknowledge her like a regular person. “I was mortified because not only was it sexual, I took that as a very plantational remark.” What if someone was doing this with your mother or your wife or your daughter?
They'd likely not be so sensitive about it. I've never heard of a "plantational remark." Nor has any of my family. If my sister or mother were being treated in a way they thought was inappropriate they wouldn't permit it. They aren't timid at all. But a grunt and looking? I'd you don't want to be looked at stay home. If grunts bother you finish kindergarten before getting a job. These coddled little snowflakes taking offense to everything is starting to become absurd
So your solution to racial and sexual harassment is to "ignore it", "start a fight with a feud with a famous celebrity who is also your boss", or "quit your job." What about we just all agree that sexual and racial harassment isn't appropriate and those who do it deserve to be fired? At my company if I did those things to a female coworker I would be fired on the spot and rightly so. In fact at my company we are explicitly told that it is ok not to directly confront the offender and instead talk to HR or your boss and have them handle it and of course it is not recommended to job quit your job.
No my solution to harassment is report it to the police. If it doesn't constitute harassment that it isn't. Some man looking at you isn't harassment your boss grunting isn't harassment. If it is to you Thathan you need to seek some therapy. If it's harassment yes. What she described wasn't. Did she ever say, "Hey Mr O'Reilly don't call me hot chocolate, I don't like that." Well if you look at your female coworkers you're just being a man. If you're starring at them and slamming a chair on a table and howling like a wolf like a Tex Avery cartoon, that's harassment. But looking? That is instinctual. If male heterosexual sexuality is harassment by nature we have a problem worth sexist against men.
I want to smash so hard those idiots who are a living insult for every woman who lived real sexual harassment, rape or domestic abuse.
In this case she decided to sue. What is the problem here? So if your daughters boss kept making sexual grunting noises whenever he passed by you would be ok with that and wouldn't consider that to be harassment? Are you serious right now? If you don't think it is harassment I have to question whether you are fit for the workplace. I noticed that even you didn't question whether this was racist or harassment. Do you understand that employees can be very fearful of challenging a boss who is bullying them especially when the company doesn't have a good culture in preventing harassment and would take the side of their #1 newscaster because he earns them money? O'Reilly has been accused of harassment by many women for years and Fox News did nothing about it and only acted when it reached a fever pitch and he was losing advertisers and it was beginning to hurt their business. Just looking isn't harassment obviously. But if a hostile co-worker kept eyeing your daughter up and down all the time then that is harassment. Its one of those things that you know when you see it. Look, when you are a famous person and act inappropriately to women don't be surprised if they sue you, and its your own fault if they do. Why do you defend such a disgusting person who chose to risk his career like this?
Receiving compensation for damages doesn't necessarily indicate wrong doing. Did she win her lawsuit? What is a sexual grunting noise? Well, you keep moving the goal posts now all of the sudden a grunt is sexual. So this lady was reading O'Reilly's mind? Or is she just taking it that way? Likely it was knowing O'Reilly's history, but I'd think there should be a little more necessary to deem something as sexual harassment than just the way a person takes it. So the legal system needs to be a mommy because the delicate little flowers are cowards? All a boss can do is fire you. Why are we telling people to be wimps? Why are we encouraging this? So, Fox is a **** company, they are facing a lawsuit for it and they will likely lose reputation. That's what is supposed to happen Exactly, I'd know it when I see it. I didn't see it. I'm not talking word for it. There needs to be proof. People are so quick to believe the person making the complaint. That is a problem. Excuse me, I don't recall defending anybody. We'll have to see how the lawsuit goes. It would likely have more chance of going the plaintiff's way if she could find other people who were harassed and file a class action suit. But I seriously doubt based on the preponderance of the evidence that it will go her way. O'Reilly will likely just try to settle out of court. It's likely how he has managed to stay employed with Fox all these years.
Well of course If a man was looking at my mother, I'd expect her to receive a multi-million to a multi-billion dollar settlement, the man should be fired and never be allowed to work again, publicly denigrated and sent to the gas chamber.
Coughing and clearing phlegm in your throat is sexual harassment to, I guess. As a man you lest not breathe when in a woman's presence in case your breathing is audible and therefore threatening to a woman's sensibilities. Funny thing is I have been given signals by women that they are attracted to me and when I did not reciprocate they became furiously vindictive. And women lament, "where are the real men these days. I give these men ample signals when they are in my presence. Look at how I flip my hair compulsively and wear revealing clothing. Men these days are just too cowardly to initiate a relationship. I want a real man" And men strive to obtain status and power to be attractive to women and women want men with status and wealth as is evident from hundreds of studies in molecular biology, genetics, anthropology, evolutionary psychology, economics et cetera Men tend study more difficult things than women at university so they will be qualified for a lucrative career when they graduate to be attractive to women. Men work harder than women to achieve a promotion and make more money and be attractive to women. Men work in more dangerous jobs to make more money and be more attractive to women. Then when one of these men risk 100% of the rejection to try to initiate a relationship with a woman it can backfire and be seen as harassment and a man can lose all he ever work for, to be attractive to women in the first place. The system is completely rigged in woman's favor. You cannot win if you are a Man.
“He always walked past my desk and he made like a grunting noise,” Burgess said, though she initially brushed it off as a muscle spasm. “As time went on, I noticed if no one was around he would make that noise.” Burgess noted that he would continue to eye her up-and-down while she sat at her desk, but she refused to give him any sort of attention. She also noted that O’Reilly had no reason to be at her desk was. “he walks past and says, ‘Hey, hot chocolate.’ But he doesn’t look at me when he said it.” She added that she had never responded him and that O’Reilly would only address her in a demeaning matter, refusing to ever acknowledge her like a regular person. “I was mortified because not only was it sexual, I took that as a very plantational remark.”
From watching the video, and if the claims are true, then by my measure Bill crossed a line of professional conduct. But the woman was also hyperbolic in equivocating sexual harassment with workplace violence. It would be selfish for a man to assume it is OK to say to a female coworker "Hey, hot chocolate" without caring what the woman wants or is comfortable with in a professional environment. I have always been respectful to my female counterparts and stand against the unprofessional actions of those like Bill.
In another thread, some women are saying it's fine to flash their tits. The stupidity is flabbergasting.
Just pretend every woman in the office is pre-op transgender. Once you image it a few times, you'll never look again. Never **** where you get the stuff that buys your food either.
What about if he was making unwanted sexual noises around her and making racial slurs directed at her? Rich people get lawsuits when they make mistakes and the consequences are more severe while for a normal person he would probably just get fired. However O'Reilly is getting a 25 million settlement for leaving the company and could get a contract with another company so he is getting far more than a normal sexual harasser would have gotten.
If simply breathing and looking meets the criteria for sexual harassment what employer in their right mind would take the chance on hiring a woman???
A man with a normal quota of brain cells, Ryobi. Someone who can understand the difference between leering and ordinary eye contact.
This is what the rocket-scientists and MENSA members at the gender studies department like to call 'the male gaze' and the idea is that looking at a woman is objectification. Although there obviously is a pinch of truth in the idea (afterall we are only animals and both sexes look at one and other thinking about fornicating), the general cause behind is nothing but jelousy - Feminists are generally ugly and are jel because the pretty women get all the attention.
And that is exactly the problem. Men can be fired for what someone says is a bad look. His word against hers and she gets more credibility
Women obviously like attention and strive to get looks; why else would they spend 90 minutes infront of the mirror every darn morning? Of course, if the male gazing at her is handsome it is acceptable, but if he is ugly, then he is a "creep" and harassing her.
No, it wasn't just a bad look. It was constantly looking her up and down, calling her racist names, and making unwanted sexual noises around her. I think the question has to be asked whether this is normal behavior. Looking at a woman is normal. What he did was extremely out of the ordinary.
Says she. Which is the whole point you ignore. It is one persons word against another persons word. The claim that is was extremely out of the ordinary is strictly subjective and biased. No evidence exists that it is anything but normal
