Looks like the standard of living in Germany is going down...

But you are not a millionaire, isn't it? So what's wrong with you? Are you not a hard worker? No smart plans? Do you not have financial discipline? Or fortune?

 

I have had it all thanks Anobsitar.
Been rich, been poor.

Nothing much to cry about. Life has not been hard to me.
I've got my status symbols.
I live here.




Not always smarter than the other guys, but sometimes more willing. Sometimes less!
Successes, failures, I've had plenty of both and expect more to come.

What immigrant can compete against Prime British Beef?
The head starts I have in the work place just from being a native language speaker alone are enough for me to dominate. And those businesses I compete against immigrant labour in, are simply not commercially viable at all at any other price.
So I can work for peanuts alongside immigrants who will also work for peanuts, or I can go unemployed.
I'll take the work.

Plenty of people who work PAYE got rich.
I work anything that pays. Barter, PAYE, gratis anything.

The house pictured above, a doctor used to own it. He worked PAYE.
Plenty cushy PAYE jobs out there.

 

Countries in Europe with lower poverty rates tend to have lower owner occupancy rates. Home ownership is effectively used as self-insurance.

Typically we can worry when the home ownership rises! Of course there are other factors at play. Britain's housing market is distorted by London speculation, such that the youngsters suffer additional well-being cost.

 

Your paradox cynicism is a problem for an Englishman who hates Germans, only because he is on his own a member of a German culture using a German language. Your hate against Germans - against your parent-culture - is a very poor attitude. What was the real name of Merlin? Alkuin? What was the real name of Camelot? Aachen? What was the real name of King Arthur? Charlesmagne? Our reality are your dreams.

 

Don't be disappointed - but to own money is exclusively only a fact of luck. Poorness is nothing what disqualifies anyone. Money is on the other side often something what destroys the character of people.



"Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord."
Job

 

It always starts at the bottom. If you go by the experience in America, it started from the bottom. People thought that just the bottom was being affected, and so the solution was to move everyone into the more skilled workforce. They didn't realize what they were seeing was the sign of an underlying economic shift that would go on to affect classes much higher up. I don't know what it will be for Germany but in America there was about a 9 year lag time, in between which the lowest sector of the economy was affected, and much more skilled sectors higher up. It may be a mistake to assume automatically that teachers won't be affected by this. You're going to have a lot of workers displaced from down below looking higher up, and those higher levels may struggle to accommodate the influx of all those people. The economy needs people at the bottom too, and when the pyramid becomes lopsided that can begin to lead to dysfunction.

Let me phrase this again. Ultimately, the higher paid more skilled sectors in the economy are not immune to what's happening to the lower paid segment. There's just a longer lag time before the effects ripple upwards.

In America, by the end of the Recession the hardest hit segment was actually not the "unskilled" but the lower middle class.

 

That's true, especialy given your other threads created on similair topics.
We'll see what happens in the future, what the job market and general living standard look like here in one or two decades from now. I can let you now then.

 

"My" paradox cynicism?

Speak for yourself mate.
Every time you speak for me, your assumptions make a fool of you.


Owning money is easy.
It's not a matter of "luck" at all, you go to work you get money.

 

Nobody wants to be at the bottom.
With social mobility, no one expects to stay at the bottom.

We are not raised to want to be at the bottom and so none of us will accept that kind of work for long.
So, those jobs leave. Or, immigrants arrive to take those jobs we will not do.

The death of the working class changed it.
Now we are all middle class.

If I take working class jobs, my women folk get real mad with me.
There are social expectations on me.

 

A man asked his good old friend:"What's going on? I saw your son driving a new Maserati and you still drive your old beetle?" "Dear friend", he answered, "The explanation is very easy. My son has a rich father. Not so I."

 

Ah, a man of discernment. Herr F.D, I believe.

 

How did ones father get rich when his own father was not?

Answer: he earned it.
Luck is a factor, but it's not the biggest factor.

If I work my arse off to buy my son a Maserati, my son's luck is not luck at all. It is my effort.

 

By luck.

When I was young I met a man who impressed me a lot, when he told me about his hard work and how he became rich. I came home and told my mother what a wonderful man I met and how he worked hard to become rich. She asked me "What's his name?" I said her the name. She answered "Ah yea - he married a rich wife".

It's the only factor, because everyone loves it to work and to harvest - except someone is sick or has psychopathological problems.

Hmm - perhaps I should produce chairs for people without arses. But I fear the most people don't work as hard as you do - except they are as rich or richer as you are. Then they are starting the day by working their breakfast and end it by working their sleep. 24 hours a day 7 days a week. And the new social darwinian capitalists of today start in the morning fighting with their breakfast for the survival of the fittest. And what can I say? They win day by day the fight against their flakes. Heroes. Ah sorry. "****ing" heroes. We live in modern times. No day without the word ****.

 

Every body loves work?

So speaks a man who has never done any.

Work is pain humiliation and boredom. It ****ing hurts. And my work mates they are in pain too. Nice for you to have a job you enjoy. But if it is fun, no one need pay you to do it.
If you go to work and you enjoy it, you are the odd one out. You are the socially weird one.

And harvests, they fail. Sometimes you go through all that pain and get nothing back from it either. How enjoyable it is.



Without some luck and even with some, I can't necessarily earn enough to get rich in one life time.
But I pass things on.

Pay them forward.
I build a house that will survive past my death.
Collect tools and contacts and skills that I pass on.

And so over time our wealth grows. A father's wealth becomes a son's wealth.
And hopefully each generation has a little more than the generation before it.

There is no shame in this. It is progress.




It is certainly the conceit of many a successful person that they did it all by themselves. "I made my own breaks in this life"
Equally it is conceit of many another person that the successful did not.

And the motivation is the same. Self aggrandisement.

I got rich due to my effort and skill. I am hence more skillful and hardworking than most.

You got rich by marrying a rich woman.
I am hence not less skillfull or hard working than you.

My lack of riches is not because I am comparatively stupid or lazy. (Just ugly!).


To get rich you need three things. Work hard, Work smart. Get lucky.
That is the formula for success.

You can pretend is it all about luck, but it isn't.

 

What are you doing? Cleaning hell? Masochistic games?

Sure. But if no one pays me - who is doing my job? And why to pay you for your masochism?

**** happens.

This is your dream of progress and harmony. You suffer hard - ah sorry: work hard - and the future generations will be rich, because of this. But on the other side you are not interested in the life of insects. Insects work hard - adn now we miss up to 80% of them. Why? Is it the same in England?

You was lucky that you have the ability to learn and your body still tolerates your torture. I remember a student in this context long years ago. He stressed himself in such a heavy way that his body decided to switch him off. He still lived but was without any consciousness. I don't know whether they were able to bring him back to life.

Did I say so? If I said this then this is wrong. I was always rich because I always had more money than the £ I never needed.

... and money ... more money ... much more money ...

 

Exactly. A wonderful singer.

 

Personally, I haven't always had more money than I needed.
I've been homeless and starving and I now prefer not to be.

I've been doing some factory work, repetative strain injuries are the norm. A great many of my jobs involve physical pain.
As a cook I get burns from the oven. As a fencer bruises from carrying the posts. As a dancer strains to my muscles. And so on.
Quite normal. Work on a building site. It will hurt. I assure you!

Insects? Try the nature section of the board. There is one.

And yes it is rather difficult to discuss the subject of living standards without addressing the subject of money. Unlike doing so without discussing insects.



If you love doing your job and don't care about money, you are doing your job if no one pays you.
There are any number of voluntary work positions out there. Plenty of people do.
Musicians "work" for the love of it. And so on.

If you won't go to work without being paid, then you work not for the love of work, but for the love of money.

I'm financially comfortable I often work for reasons other than money. But here's the thing, when I do, it's not really work at all. It's play.

 

You are alive.

Good decision in context "life expectation".

This should not be so. Pain is a warn signal. Don't use medicaments in such cases without speaking with a doctor first. Sometimes it's necessary to do so. In most cases not. Try to change the causes for this pain.

Good grieve. Such things happen. Be more careful.

Fechter?

¿Pfosten?

Ah ... I understand. You did not fight with a sword - you made fences.

Yeah - you could get a sunstroke for example, what's extremely dangerous in case of an insolation encephalopathy.

Let me say it in this way: You are not able to be happy if the insects all around you are not happy.

Hmm ...

I did not say I do not care about money. I say normally about money: "Money is the illusion where you are able to die on, if you don't have it."

Why should I work for other people, who don't pay me? That's nonsense.

Hmm - as far as I understood Wolfgang Niedecken then he started to make music because he liked to impress girls.

An you work now on your sophistry. Also on your emotionality, wisdom, philosophy and spirituality?

For insects for example?

I remember in this context a Palestinian, who had learned German in a Goethe-Institut. He spoke a wonderful German. He said once the sentence "Als ich mich in Lohnarbeit befand ... " I translate it now in this way: "When I found myself in wage labor ...". This delighting moment to hear someone to use such a wonderful and exact German gave me a lot to think about lots of things. I never would say a "not wage work" is a "play" - but I agree with Friedrich Schiller that life is a game.

 

Lol @ sunstroke.

Hahaha haha funny boy.

Had a soft life have we mate?

 

So you never had a sunstroke. Sounds funny in your mind - may be extremely dangerous in reality.

 

I use guns and chainsaws most days. Sunstroke is the least of my worries.

 

I guess you are also not worried about a tick bite as long as you are able to fight with chainsaws and guns against yourself.

 

Ah ha insects!
Don't have a lot of ticks round here. I've never been bitten by one. My animals get them from time to time.

Don't really have time to fight against myself. To busy working.
What do you do?

I've got you down as a desk jockey. You seem intellectually uncomfortable with pain and mantools. So I assume physicality is not part of your life.
I like a bit of wax on wax off in my routine. Being a ninja gives me a lot social confidence and it pleases the Mrs.


Oh and yes, I got into the music business to impress girls too. That's how I know people do it for love.

 

I solved the problem to be able to find out how why this problem of dying insects exists and what I am able to do for the life of my sisters and brothers insects. A biologist will explain me and others something to this theme. As far as I heard the problem started about 150 years ago. In some month I will know more.

Ticks are not insects.

Nothing I like to discuss with you. I heard in the next years Germany will lose more than 50% of all jobs by "robots" (algorithms and machines). Some people suggest to make experiments with an unconditional basic income. For sure we need a new way of economy, if we don't like to get widespread social grievances. The problem is basically that we live in a turn of the eras. Industrialization is over. We are able to solve all problems which are able to be solved with the logic of machines. And we don't know what new form of human way of life will come out of this crisis. I guess the way is in a new direction of the logic of life - for example the logic of colors.

Aha

I guess you said here something what you understand. I am not a member of your culture. Your pictures here say nothing to me.

You love music? If you love music then you are not able to love war. War destroys life. Life is music.

 

Ticks are insects mate.
A blood sucking parasite like a flea, only bigger.
To remove them you touch them with a cigarette first.

I am both life saver and life taker.

War is at once an act of hate and an act of love.
Mans darkest and finest hour at the same time.

My hate empowers me to take life. My love empowers me to sacrifice my own.
Warriors are needed. My culture honours them in the hope that others will follow their example. I should simply never have been born without them.
There would have been no life for me at all.
Nor you.

Bear it in mind, German Jew.
But for our love of war, you simply would not be.
The music that you love you would never have heard.
No life for you nor I without my families love of war.

This love, brings you life.

With death comes guilt.
It's a human response in us all.
Try not to make those brave enough to accept that guilt when you yourself are too cowardly to take your share... feel any worse than they already do.
Because guilt is overwhelming. It can kill too.