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  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    In USA, 85% of people believe in Old Testament.

    Jewish Torah and Tanakh is accepted by Christians -- it is called Old Testament. Most of Torah is also in Koran. At least 4 Billion people in the World believe in Old Testament.

    According to Talmud, only Jews are obligated to follow the Laws commonly known as ritual. But all people must follow laws of relations among people.

    Everyone understands that stealing from the poor is very bad. Stealing from the poor means withholding tax obligations which are used to aid poor people.
     
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    Those who believe this are fit only for subjection to tyranny.
    Precluding parasites from eating out the substance of taxpayers under color of law is not stealing from the poor. Hope that clears things up for ya.
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you have a citation for that?

    I always assumed you lived in the United States. Am I wrong?

    Plenty of taxpayer funded programs exist already. Are you suggesting that the taxpayer needs to pay even more?
     
  4. CCitizen

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    Eliminationist rhetoric is evil.

    All people have to live. People who can not provide for themselves must have rights to sustenance, housing, and medicine as well.
     
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    I happen to be a US Citizen since 1991. I live in USA. I will never be an American.
     
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    Millionaires and especially hectomillionairs and billionaires would not be hurt by having to pay more taxes.
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that just a semantics/definition thing, or is there some actual significance of being a U.S. citizen but not an American?

    Those rich should not be forced to provide for others - they can contribute to charity if they desire. See, some people still believe in liberty and freedom, while others believe in an all-powerful government that can squash individual liberty. I'll leave you to decide who is who.

    The founding fathers disagree. Charity would be a better way to handle it.

    Insinuating that taxpayers who want lower taxes are stealing from the poor is quite ludicrous.
     
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    I mean that I have no loyalty to USA. Especially given USA Human Rights record.
     
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    Luxuries enjoyed by billionaires take up money which could have been used to save tens of thousands of lives.
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Strange how life goes. I feel exactly the opposite.

    Strange how some feel entitled to others' wealth. I feel exactly the opposite.
     
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    If millionaires' and billionaires' personal income was taxed at a high rate, then the revenue could save tens of thousands of lives per year.
     
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    If we confiscated every U.S. citizen's personal income, we could save even more lives! That "from each by ability, to each as to need" thing sounds spectacularly progressive! Now we just need to figure out who gets to determine each person's ability and each person's needs.
     
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    Of course, Communism had very many drawbacks. As does unlimited Capitalism. Scandinavia developed an optimal balance.
     
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    The truth is evil, you mean.
    And all people have to die, so I don't know what the hell your point is.
    Which means, of course, that people who can are obligated to effectively adopt children of all ages that they didn't bring into the world.
    Yeah, we get it: America owes you a living, but you don't owe America the time of day.
    Obviously your concerns along those lines are more than compensated for by the fact that America's checks don't bounce.
     
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    Eliminationist Rhetoric is the claim that those who do not produce should be left without food, shelter, medical care. Most of those who do not produce in fact can not produce.
     
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    The label is not interesting. What I posted is true, and you bloody well know it.
     
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    With modern Technology and Material Resources, survival of everyone can be assured. Not just the fittest.

    Judaism views charity as an obligation for 33 Centuries. Christianity views Charity as an obligation for 20 Centuries. Islam views Charity as an obligation for 14 Centuries.
     
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    85% of the entire US population believe in that? Cite the sources to verify your claims.
     
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    All Jews, Christians, and Muslims believe in Old Testament.
     
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    Everyone is better off than someone else. Are you typing this on a computer at the library, or are you using a personal device you bought instead of sending canned food to the hungry?
     
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    I'm curious. Which country do you consider yourself loyal to?
     
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    I am Jewish, but I have never been in Israel and never served Israel.

    I guess I am not a patriot of any Nation.
     
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    OK fair enough.
     
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    I'd much rather be a Loser than a Charlie Sheen { " Winner " } as in his
    obnoxious " Winning ! ... Winning any ! ". That was about the most
    despicable act of ego I have ever witnessed.It was virtually dripping like
    Dracula after a nighttime snack and then acting as if Godzilla had nothing
    on him.Charlie Sheen's dad and brother { Martin and Emilio } should have
    drove over to Charlie's mansion and locked him in a room and slowly beat the
    Livin' crap out him.Denied him food,water,sleep until he recognized his
    truly evil mindset.Then kept him under lock and key in a safe room where he
    could scream bloody murder and whine like a widdle kiddie until Kingdom
    come ... until his Ego came down from its evil perch.
    I'm talkin the Interview Sheen gave to Alex Jones where the word
    " Winning " was a central theme.Sheen was proud stupid about his status
    as a TV star,the amount of Cocaine he could ingest and the amount of
    chicks and sex he could handle.And anyone who dared not recognize his
    monumental Hollywood status was a common lowlife.When in fact,
    HE WAS THE LOWLIFE.Provable.Beyond doubt.
    Seems that Robert De Niro has climbed aboard that Sheen mighty
    express train to Hell,likewise.
     
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    you have to give respect to charlie for landing Denise Richards in her Prime.
     

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