Louisville PD declares ‘state of emergency’ in anticipation of Breonna Taylor decision

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  1. Denizen

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    The outcome was ordained when it was referred to a grand jury that deliberates in secret.

    The US justice system is corrupt and allows secrecy in proceedings in a grand jury. If the justice system was not corrupt, grand jury proceedings would be publicized and open.
     
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    "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
     
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    It's the best justice system in the world. Certainly better than the mob justice you want.
     
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    Uh, what?

    We are imprisoned more than any other country in the world, including China, North Korea and Cuba.

    Are you saying we're just a nation filled with criminals? I don't think that. I think we have too many laws that turn otherwise law abiding people into criminals.

    Also noteworthy, we now have for-profit prisons, and our prisoner rate is rising. Coincidence? I think not.
     
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    What's that to do with the most basic freedom people should have? The right to consume what we want? Without being thrown in jail for exercising a most basic right?

    Sounds like someone wants to own the body and mind of other people. When it isn't your busine
    It's what you get when village idiots are voted into office..

    It has been so good that we need the war to include booze! We could really get some bootleggers killed out. These criminals are just gonna teach their kith and kin to make that evil elixir of sin!

    Hell lets make America booze free! All you need is no knock warrants. We just didn't try hard enough to rid us of alcohol. This time we have no knock warrants!
     
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    I don't want Trump's mob justice.
     
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    Our freedoms are disappearing, but the "you have no rights, except the right to not wear a mask," crowd, is welcoming it with thunderous applause.

    Yay - you got the freedom to infect your fellow citizens with a dangerous disease! Hooray! Can I have some pot, now? "NO!!!!"
     
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    Those looters and arsonists we not wearing maga caps. The mob justice was coming from the anti law and order rioters and looters. They really taught us a lesson! They stole TVs so they could watch themselves on big screen TV!
     
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    Yep we should use no knock warrants on those people not wearing masks. For if you knock and show the warrant, this would give the criminals a chance to don't the mask!!!

    It doesn't take much to crap all over a constitution!

    Remember our constitution is there to also protect us from the corrupting nature of power! And it has been boiled like a frog. Like water it has slow

    and steady worn the words right off the constitution as if the paper was rocks.
    And as if the meaning of words are relative. The term privacy is one of those terms.. Hell the concept of the right of privacy has been buggered up..

    Such rights of privacy hinder justice! Fishing expedititions insure we catch them doing something illegal!

    As Stalin said, show him the person staand he will show you a crime! Justice! We have too many Americans that must be kin to Mr. Stalin and can't see they are of the dark side. The end justifies the means!

    The drug laws and war on drugs is evidence our rulers are unfit for their jobs. Incompetent.
     
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    I am against no knock raids, and also civil forfeiture, in all but the most extreme of cases. Someone selling pot should not qualify for anything related to the criminal justice system.

    I'm not in favor of mandatory masks, so I'm not sure where you got the idea I am. Perhaps your response wasn't sarcasm, though. Hard to tell.

    It's just hypocrisy that angers me.

    Yes, it angers me that an employer would intentionally put an employee in harm's way. I'll rely on the employee choosing another employer, instead of following asinine rules, but sometimes that's not so easy.

    "Don't wear a mask or your fired," is an awful position to put an employee in.
     
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    It’s what you get when very reasonable and smart people are voted into office.

    No knock warrants are effective tools and should stay.
     
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    They cost too many innocent lives for a crime involving selling what other people want to buy!

    When innocents get killed or terrorized, that isn't an effective tool..Its just stupid.
     
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    Incorrect, they overwhelmingly go very well. Without them the loss of evidence would be to great.

    They are a fantastic tool and should stay.
     
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    I am against no knock raids because such tactics guarantees deaths given you are waking people up.. Most times in the wee hours.. And they are not necessary.. And it puts cops in danger too..

    It shows a lack of value for the lives of innocent people including kids!

    Some crimes require drastic tactics. Drug crimes don't and shouldn't.
     
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    Incorrect, ALOT of evidence can be lost in just a few seconds. Virtually all of it in many cases. There is no rational defense of getting rid of no knock raids, you are projecting onto me. The vast majority go over very well.

    I hope we all develop some intelligence and recognize the validity in no knock raids.
     
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    Two officers shot. BIL at the hospital says they're preparing for rioters to storm the building.
     
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    I wouldn’t doubt if rioters storm the hospital and finish off/kill fhe officers.

    That’s where BLM is at right now. And dems still support them. Smh.
     
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    Incorrect, it happens all the time without no knock raids.

    What makes you think I would make booze illegal to? You have no justification for that, you are simply and emotionally creating straw men instead of addressing what I say.

    No knock raids are useful and should stay.
     
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    There are about 20,000 no-knock raids a year. Want to take a guess at how many of them ended in "guaranteed death"?

    Hint: its about the same % as unarmed black men killed unjustifiably by police.
     
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    Incorrect. Just messing with you since I think your beliefs are inconsistent in principle.

    Yet no knock raids kill innocent people. A fact.. Cost is too great just to snatch some drugs.
    Not sure how many innocent will die but one is too many given no knock raids are not essential
     
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    You have no reason to believe my viewpoint is inconsistent with principle. You are seeing what you want to see, and projecting quite a bit.

    No knock raids often times save officers lives by giving the criminal little time to fortify. They are an excellent tool and should stay.
     
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    Incorrect. They kill innocent people every year and innocent lives are more valuable than finding drugs due to no knock raids.

    Also since we can look back at prohibition of alcohol why make the same stupid mistake twice?

    Should we not learn from stupid mistakes?
     
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    Incorrect.

    They overwhelmingly work out perfectly fine, and often times save officer lives as well as evidence. They are an excellent tool and should stick around.
     
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    You avoided answering about prohibition. A fact not a projection.

    I say given this tool takes innocent lives it cannot be excellent.. If no innocent person gets killed in a year, then it's excellent.
     
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    I never avoided anything, you have consistently claimed I have defended a position I havent, you have consistently made claims about my argument that I never made. You are projecting.

    This tool saves officers lives, and evidence and is an effective tool that should remain.
     

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