Lucy pulls the ball away.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?

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    Your failure to recall that dems lost the House in 2010 because of Obamacare getting passed without a single vote from republicans should be instructive to help dems change in order to finally win elections again. But it's too late now. :roflol:

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    You're not helping your lame argument at all
     
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    So you show me a few signs and I hand you 365 days of negative news from the NYT and Wash Post. Not to mention the daily whining by the usual suspects.
     
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    That crap went on every day for 8 years
     
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    LOL, my "lame" argument? Even if dems changed now, NO ONE would believe them. Dems are history by their own inability to see they've lost the American people's votes and confidence.

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    Natural gas is cheaper. Fracking, the easiest way of getting natural gas, is lined with red tape.
     
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    Might be because fracking is linked to polluted groundwater.

    Natural gas is only cheap is natural gas companies aren’t forced to pay for negative externalities their company produces.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You aren't the first one to point to negative press coverage of Drumpf. What you fail to consider is what was happening to result in the coverage from the beginning. The Russian meddling was coming in to fuller view, Drumpf was denying it, Flynn was fired over his conversation with Kislyak, Bannon was a top adviser, there were the lies about the inauguration, Kellyanne's alternate facts, lying about contacts with Russians, Don's boorish tweets, and on and on.
     
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    So, individual citizens' signs of Obama are the same as 80% of main stream media bashing Trump? Weird how the signs are only seen by those in the local area while the media reaches world wide audiences, but to you its the same, or worse for the sign.
     
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    Show us that crap. I lived through all those obama years and there was nothing that can compare to today's bitterness.
     
  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not massive subsidies. Have you forgotten the subsidies oil companies get?

    Think of subsidizing renewable energy as a necessary investment in the future to save the planet.

    http://ieefa.org/irena-renewables-hit-cost-parity-fossil-fuels-2020/
     
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    And yet all the bullshit you guys throw at this guy and his family has done nothing but made him stronger. How many threads have you started claiming Trump is over? I don't have the free hours to count them.
    Now go back to my question to you
    Talks with the Korea's fail, are you happy or sad? A simple question that deserves a one word answer.
     
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    Wrong again, it has been proven that its not. And the idea that other forms of new sources of energy are open to innovations, they face the same red tape as fracking. The left has hedged their bets on solar and wind, and the right has done the same with coal, oil, and natural gas. Government stops innovations.

    http://naturalgasnow.org/pennsylvania-mystery-wheres-fracking-pollution/
     
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    You mean tax write offs for years spent building derricks without producing anything and able to write off years of deficit spending in future years? Those "subsidies"?

    Lets not forget solyndra getting $500 billion from Obama even with a failing business plan that showed them going bankrupt. That was a subsidy.
     
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    And I support governments subisides, but it doesn’t change the fact that it takes subsidies for alternate fuels to compete.
     
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    Seriously? You are going to use a natural gas lobbying group’s website as proof like it isn’t biased as ****?
     
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    You mean the ones who quote the EPA?
     
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    And clearly no lobbying group in history has ever selectively quoted a hundred page report and referenced out of context only the data that supports them.
     
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    If you think Bush bombed the Taliban out of Afghanistan I can see why you are having this problem with N. Korea. :)
     
  21. Lee Atwater

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    That wasn't exactly a denial there are legitimate reasons for the negative coverage.........which was what we were discussing.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, by all means lets endlessly drone on about Solyndra as though it is a justification for not doing all we can to develop renewable energy sources as quickly as possible.
     
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    Now, for the third time, my question from your OP,
    Talks with the Korea's fail, are you happy or sad? A simple question that deserves a one word answer.
     
  24. Lee Atwater

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    The chance of nuclear disaster or a better chance for another 7 years of chaos and incompetence. It's a toss up.
     
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    Your answer fits perfectly with the sad state of the democratic party.
     
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