Lybia : migrants sold as slave

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    Humanities strength is the enormous diversity of ethnicities. I rather prefer to be pure German. To have pure Japanese, pure French and Pure basque than a mix of nothing.
     
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    Roman Jesuits created islam, not that catholics or islam likes it but it is a historical fact none the less.
     
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    I understand what your saying and also think diverse pure races are better for society, of course there will always those who mix races and that is fine long as they don't eleminate other races doing so. To each his own to a point.
    But when there is a plan for genocide for one certain group it is pure evil,imo.

    Ali can get away with it because he is black, so let him explain it.
     
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    I have news for you, the Europeans are secular humanists. Seems like secular humanism is a conflict in terms. :confuse:
     
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    Your timing is off. Islam appeared, and began advancing in the 7th century during the time of Justinian when the Church was still one, and the Papacy had no more power than the other Patriarchs. The Jesuits were formed after the schism in 16th century Spain, as a scholarly instrument of the Papacy.
     
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    Sobo I agree with you, and people should relish in diversities. But no one should see himself as being superior inherently or culturally, except maybe in certain fields. But they shouldn't see those fields as being superior, although the truth is, we could all learn from others. It's how civilization progresses.
     
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    Blah blah blah, America is evil

    Thankfully this message is losing steam as America takes less action on the world stage.
     
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    What if he replaced "race" with "culture"? Would you agree then?

    I think that is what makes America great ... or at least a lot of it. While we have more races than anyone other country, we all have the CULTURE of being American.

    Why would the people of Germany want such a drastically different culture to come to their country? Why do you think people like Sabo and other Germans have the responsbility to do so?

    If we were talking about people that wanted to come in and BE German, that would be one thing. But they are not. They want to create little enclaves of their own culture within Germany and therefore divide the people.

    If they want to go to Germany (or anywhere else) they should be wanting to assimilate. If not, they are just going to create massive amounts of problem and I completely understand and agree with the Germans who are tired of it
     
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    The Jesuits started somewhere around 70 AD in Rome. And in the mid 400s AD used the wild fighting skills of the arabs to take back Israel from already declining Rome. Mohammad married a Jesuits older widow.
    I intensely studied ancient history and used many different historical paths in my research of facts.
    I could put up a really good man whos religion I don't follow to help you in your own search for facts. But like most others who would rather argue or debate subjects they really know little about you'd ignore it. Say it is too long to watch yet spend years spreading false history rather than seek truths.
     
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    I disagree with how much emphasis Sabo puts on 'Race', but he is correct that uniformity of race tends to mean uniformity of culture.

    Nationalism is good to me becuase it puts dividing lines between cultures. There are Germans, there are French, there are Russians, Japanese .... etc etc etc.

    Those cultures are all VERY different, they may have similarities, but they are all different. If people want to move to another country, they need to be willing to become that country, otherwise I think immigration without assimilation is a horrible thing for any country.
     
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    It's not what I read. Libya was the wealthiest nation in Africa, and it had some of the best social services in the world. Ghadaffi even paid for medical care outside of Libya if the doctors and facilities weren't available. His downfall came about because he made agreements with Russia, and it upset Washington. Also because he wanted to take Africa off the petro dollar and put it on a gold standard so as to raise their standard of living.

    This is why he was killed. The first thing the animals who we supported did, was to start killing all the blacks Ghadaffi had hired. Now if we had freedom of the press, and the journalists were free to do their jobs instead of being stenographers, the Americans would know this and would have been appalled ...but it was all well hidden.

    I tried to figure out how Ghadafi could have known that Europe would suffer if Libya was destroyed. I guess he realized that the only thing that would keep the people from migrating, would be jobs and some prosperity ...and that was exactly what Ghadaffi was trying to do.
     
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    What in the world are you talking about?

    the mid 400's AD? So like 330 - 380 AD? The Jews "rose up" in 351 and controlled the area for like 6 months before Rome came back and smacked the crap out of them.

    Mohammud didn't even enter the equation for another 300 years.....

    Where did you say you studied this history so intensely?
     
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    I agree with you on this. People will NEVER leave behind their culture because it is basically their ethnicity or race.
    Like happening all over the world now to European nations immigrants don't come to join they come to change, take over and conquer, fact!
     
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    Well, never is a strong word but I definitely see what you are getting at and usually do agree.

    I am proud to be an American because I think it is the most likely country on Earth to allow anyone to come and be a part of the culture, if they are willing to BE a part of the culture.

    Places like Germany are actually much more ethnically (race) driven than places like America. Even though most on the far Left would disagree with that comment, there is a reason why the US is such a diverse place. If you are willing to be an American, we don't care what you look like or what you do for the most part.
     
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    Read it again, real slow this time.
    Islam has only been around for past 1600 yr.s. Roman Catholicism was started in Rome around 350 AD. But didn't get a hold on things till Constantine changed the laws to cease Judaism in Israel. He went with the pagans day of Sun God to Sunday instead of Christian Sabbath Saturday. Later in 1400s islam was created.
     
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    And unlike other empires this is why we have fallen in less than 200 years. We haven't been America except in name in decades.
    Diversity is a killer of a nation. And since we started off wrong with the slaves brought in over a hundred years before most of us anglo-saxsons arrived by Spanish ruled Zionist and their allies Islam we will end badly, imo.
    All empires end ours is just had a short life in comparison.
     
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    Islam started in 610 AD.
     
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    Although I think to be friends and trade with others is a very good thing but to try to live under the same flag is deadly to whoever has the most weapons or numbers or rules. And to visit and enjoy each others cultures is also good.
    Rome is a good example of this for two reasons, one they stretched out too far and tried to rule the world, second they brought into their nation non assimilating immigrants.
     
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    I know it was around that time. Over a 100 years after the fall of rome. I'm older now and have forgotten more than most of you will ever know about history. But still have a general idea.
     
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    You were off by a thousand years.
     
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    Draco I apologize for sounding rude. Not my intentions. Guess I best go back to music,haha.
     
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    No you just added them. Not going to argue with yall about it it is what it is so believe what you want to.
     
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    The whole world agrees with you.
     
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    The UN agency said that in 2016, Libya registered the fourth consecutive year of decline in oil production, on which government revenues depend. In the first half of 2016, the country produced an average 350,000 barrels per day, almost 20 percent less than in the previous year.

    The year 2016 has ended with a GDP budget deficit of more than 60 percent, while foreign reserves have been rapidly depleting, halving from $107.6bn in 2013 to an estimated $43bn in 2016.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/01/russia-endgame-libya-170116061913370.html


    So maybe Russia has ambitions to build 2 bases in Libya .. One near Tobruk and another in Benghazi.
     
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    As I can read in official Russian press there are no any negotiations about it. It seems these negotiations are secret or they are really absent. Bases is very expensive thing. We already have two ones in Syria. May be it is enough for our possibilities. More likely we'll build a base on Cuba. Several Russian politicians sounded this information. But maybe we scare Americans only.
     
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