Macron says Africa’s main problem is ‘7-8 children per woman,’

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  1. goody

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    How did we get to that "religious" comparison out of the societal structure which was brought up to make Pierre grasp better the problem the Fwench truly has?

    Look Voltaire, you don't sound like one of those bad kids having swagguhs with thugs around that corner down the street trynna find rich kids to beat the sh.t out of'em to steal stuff from'em... So I'm gon be honest with you now. Yeah, lemme be that wise black dude with Braves cap on telling young guns get a job, helping big mamas carry groceries upstairs, staying away from gangs, getting their GED done n sh.t... Whadevuh...

    I ain't no foe to you aright Fabien? I'm just tryinna help you understand the real deal here. I just want you to see the big picture dawg.

    Fwench has been weak and still insisting on staying as weak as they can against the changin, shiftin, twistin, twirlin global "politiques".
    Even America can't do no sh.t about this dude, you need to see it.

    "Smooth transition" is here. All that inconvenience is in between the two ruling cliques one of whom thinks Westphalia is already dead, particularly since 1990, therefore the world just needs some little "retouches", like "little bombs from those little cute drones here and there" to make sure the demographics are growing in the way they are supposed to be, forming the basis of the global society... And the other clique says no, Westphalia can still be a use for a while in a scale of things from creating "reasons" for war (the phoenix theorem) to render the bloom of new system out of the ashes of the old, to -as you nicely put there- getting the lagged societies like Fwans into a "discipline" to attempt to take them up to the same level to Germanic tribe, therefore to make them ready for the next phase which will sooner or later eventually require that stereotypical societal structures all around the world.

    So to cut the long bs short, the former says; "I got the muscles, I'm the big bro, so I'll do it by myself and while doing it, I don't need to discuss no sh.t with y'all, aright?". The latter says; "Dude, enough is enough, you got the muscles n stuff but we're many and hungry, we say if we do it we do it our way in our own yard, and that's it. We want you to do the same and mind your own business in your own damn yard as we do. You can watch me rollin, and tell me what's wrong but you just can't stick that Commonwealth nose into ma own business and take measures as you own me dawg... I ain't lettn you do all that"

    As you can see, this way or the other, globalism will be here as reality of our lives. Are we going to live long enough to witness it, that I don't know but Jean-Marie, you must snap out of it dude..!
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, they do have soldiers on the streets of Europe... after every terrorist attack.

    All because of Muslim terrorists, my friend. No?
     
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    No. Last time I checked Academi consisted of full Methodist bastards. No?
     
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    Which naturally leads to Chesterton. " The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything".
     
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    Sometimes the discussion of France is not intended to be critical but instead an expression of concern for the direction France is taking.

    It's not just the French who will miss the French culture and all it had to offer the world, but all those who have spent time there as well, and have gotten to know something of the romance and joy France and the French people had to offer. That appears to be disappearing, with no real idea of what might take its place.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your responses are getting ever more juvenile.
     
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    Juvenile? What's that? Prison? I know Juventus...
     
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    Except that he never made that rather vacuous comment.
     
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    And that is why they will all be Muslim in a few decades.
     
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    I find your thinking peculiarly opaque. You think, for instance, that American belief in a flat earth will inevitably lead to speaking Chinese?
     
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    So the reason you hold onto the concept of god is to protect yourself from the concept of god? That's an interesting concept.
     
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    They didn't teach you that in your Madrassa? I'm surprised you're here voicing your ignorance here rather than out molesting women somewhere. You can get some fresh air at the same time.
     
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    My reasons are unimportant. But in the absence of a belief in God the civilization disappears. Europeans are reproducing way below replacement.

    Why do you suppose that is? Why are Europeans so disinterested in life they don't have children?

    What is the inevitable outcome of such a situation?
     
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    Oh so you referred "immaturity" like being "childish"... Ooookaaay, I understand now... Sorry juvenile is not too common around where I am from... It's called Medrese by the way. Madrasa reminds of Madrabaz... They wear hats too... Lol...
     
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    I will counter that with, that with the absence of a belief in god, the civilization becomes more important.
     
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    Yes. But unfortunately, their is no obvious answers. We can't hope to get back at the power we was, at that time, the rest of the world were way behind us in term of technologies and developement.
    Furthermore, our culture knew it's golden hour between the 15th and 19th century. It was the time of classical music, classical painting, the time of Corette, Couperin, David, Géricault, Ingre... But the radical change in technologies changed the world, and the time of those people ended.
    On another continent, another country appeared, the USA. Bigger than the old europe, as populated with a population globally speaking one languahe : english. The time of classical painting, music ended, and the american culture rised : it's the time of super heroes, star wars.

    The last problem is not a small one, among the centuries, France welcomed a lot of different strangers : polish, spanish, italian, sometimes even german. Waves after waves, migrant integrated in France, in a country devastated by it's own madness, during a long time France was much more populated than the rest of Europe. Today, with 60 millions inhabitant, it's still one of the most populated country, but the time when France had the double population of the United Kingdom is far away. But the last wave didn't worked, here the muslims. Today, we're at the 4th generation of muslims born in France, the problem Islam represent in France can't be easily solved.

    And finally, we're among one of the most athee country in the world. I'm athee myself, but If humanity doesn't need mandatory religion, they need spirituality, discipline.
    Catholism was imperfect, it caused drama like the deportation of protestants out of France. A man named Denis Papin moved out France and go to England, he was one of the forerunner of the steam engine.

    Probably the last problem, and it's ironic, our democratic model don't work that good. As far as I see, their is a lot of problem in a lot of different democracies.
    The recent problem just highlighted what is true for a long time : France is sick and that for a long time.

    The quick defeat in 1940 showed that clearly, when France generals were old, silly men, Germany chose a bunch of much younger, but mainly more skilled general, with the results we knew.

    De Gaulle was what we call our "baroud d'honneur", a "last stand".

    For the moment, the french people didn't found the way to rejuvenate their country, I think that in 200 next years, France would have to reborn or die.

    Macron is clearly not the solution, and I don't think a single man is a solution. He even said that "French culture doesn't exist". It show the scorn that man have for his own country.
     
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    Doesn't seem to be working in Europe. A Swedish politician recently denied that there was any such thing as "Swedish culture." And a previous poster says Macron said the same about French culture. Indeed, the whole misbegotten fad of "multiculturalism" seems to be a rejection of one's own culture. I link it to the rise of atheism.

    Can you provide any examples of a vigorous atheistic society, one in which you would like to live?
     
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    I didn't knew. In France, our president pretended they were no french culture. Our medias, newspapers, TV channel were trying to pretend he was extremly savant.

    He even spoke of the "island of guyane", refering to the french guyane. It's by the way a french territory, in south america, totally connected to the land. This ignorant don't know the frontiers of his own country.
     
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    I don't buy your premise that a nation, or culture, needs to have a foundation of believers to thrive.
     
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    Hard do say. Some roman philosophers were rather close to atheism, but it was rather at the end of the empire. It's rather funny to see that some christian thinkers were dangerously close of atheism too, I don't remind the name of the man, but one claimed that "you didn't need the proof of the existence of god because the idea of god was enough".

    Among the fun facts, the first known athee (from christianism in Europe) was a priest, Jean Meslier.
     

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