Macron warns of ‘escalation of rhetoric’ after Biden ‘genocide’ comment

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The question is which side of the war you support .. not if you support Assad's Policy in general. Your not getting the cause and effect part of the equation which has led to you contradicting yourself.

    Biden's policy of using the Islamic State as a proxy army in Syria. You said there are no policies of Biden you support. Therefor .. you do not support Biden's policy of using the Islamic State as a proxy army.

    Not supporting the Islamic State supports the Assad/Russia/Iran effort in the war.
     
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    That Trudeau guy takes the cake .. is on the same page as Biden, but even worse because Canada does not have mechanisms to prevent exercise of power such as in the US .. or rather .. what ever mechanisms they do have didn't work. The dude was seizing bank acounts of people who donated to the convoy protest.. a scary lesson to those who wish the end of paper money. Electronic stuff they can shut you down on a dime .. "poof" money gone .. no warning .. no "innocent before guilty" .. can just arbitrarily shut you down for any frivolous reason they make up ... then its you that has to worry about taking up a legal battle to get your money back .. which you can't do cause all your money has been siezed - nothing to pay the lawyer with. Catch 22.

    This is an Orwellian nightmare .. cept is not a dream .. its reality right here .. right now.
     
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    I never liked Trudeau or his father either.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't know much about Daddy .. was he an authoritarian collectivist like his son ?
     
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    I thought he had way too many "new age" tendencies of the 1970ish Jerry Brown variety. I also know that western Canadians absolutely loathed him.
     
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    ~ Exactly. It is important that Capitola Hill politicos get this message loud and strong. If the US Constitution/Bill of Rights are not upheld we are lost .
     
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    Its crazy what happened .. slowly but surely Gov't is taking over your bank account ... has taken over in the case of Canada. This is a massive invasion of privacy .. an invasion we have been led to believe is "OK" nothing to see here .. just trying to keep the drug lords from laundering money .. . This was one of the true reasons for the Drug war .. was a massive attack on civil liberties. .. everything now justified on the basis of Utilitarianism/collectivism .. "Harm Reduction" "Were doing it for your own good and the good of the collective love ..now go back to sleep"

    Then came the Patriot act .. another smash in the face of liberty .. "Got to protect you from those terrorists now" .. and of course monitor your bank account to ensure that you are not one.. The risk of harm to a US citizen from terrorism is 400 times less than the risk of harm from walking you know .. "Liberty or Death" forget that .. you are going to give it up on the basis of any whim .. some politician crying "its best for the collective" the rational given most often fallacious.

    Control someones bank account and you have full control over that person .. Step out of line .. donate to some cause that goes out of favor after the fact .. better think twice bro.. Gov't going to seize your accounts .. stop your company from operating .. fk you hard..

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    ~ For me the 9 -11 hit on USA and passing the Patriot Act was a wake-up call . Scary days in government abuse ever since ...
     
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    That's interesting and though I'm not the alarmist you are you do seem to hold some valid points.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That you are not alarmed .. is unfortunate .. but all too common. You are not alone mate :)

    The reasons for this lack of alarm

    1) An inate Trust in authority - Recognizing that Gov't is somewhat corrupt .. somewhat bad -- everyone will admit .. oh "but its not like Stalin's Russia or Mao's China" so while they used these tools nefariously .. our's wont .. or it wont be that bad. Capisce ? We hear such arguments in one form or another all the time.

    You doing this in the above post .. "Not that alarmist" You see the danger but .. no worries .. Gov't generally has our best interests at heart when it comes to these things .. someone is holding down the fort on our behalf . not like we going to turn out like S#d$f some indeterminant label for nasty totalitarianism. Right ?

    2) Gov't will never go bad. this is the second part of 1) - unconsciously rendered in the individual. The idea that it will never be like Adolf's Germany.

    and here we come to the thinking part of the segment .. what is wrong with this thinking .. other than the obvious .. Who can say Gov't will never go bad .. and in fact that is the natural tendency of Gov't .. something I think you agree with from your historical purusings.

    So already we have caught ourselves in an indefensible position .. Of course Gov't can go bad .. at which point the adherent will move the goalpost down the slippery slope .. "Well it won't go that bad" .. the argument getting weaker and weaker with every slip down the slope .. until we get to our current state of being :) .

    but Other than that .. what is wrong with this thinking .. something that is not at all clear .. something that will be missed and thus the adherent will continue down this flawed path - not recognizing the flaw.

    and sorry for dragging this out .. but it is important to get the mental dynamics that underlies this "lack of alarm"

    3) Who said that the next form of Totalitarianism .. will look like Adolfs Germany .. or the Land of El Saud .. albeit the Land of El Saud is getting much closer to what it looks to be looking like.

    and now the gas goes out of balloon.. as if one hasn't taken this into consideration .. the rational is out the door.

    So if the rational for not being alarmed - 'Cause it won't look like Stalin" is bad to begin with as it might well look like that .. Biden's demonization of a group - propaganda - forced medical treatment had the canaries in the Nazi coal mine clucking pretty hard.. The fact that it may not look like any of them .. the next form of Totalitarianism .. should give pause .. at least generate a little fear of the unkown.

    So D ... your not alarmed .. so what will the next form of totalitarianism look like .. and why will we never realistically achieve this goal ...why is this move to electronic money .. not a serious step in the direction of "Totalitarianism" .. and why shold we not be alarmed .. even though it is not the Nazi kind of Totalitarianism .. Would the US turning into the land of El Saud not be alarming .. Oh . but we won't be like El Saud .. Christians will never allow that.. yeah but it doesn't have to look exactly like El Saud ... or even resemble it at all .. and it will still be Totalitarianism..

    So when you say "Totalitarianism" pictures come up in peoples head .. what ever they have in that box .. which is always something lke Stalin-Hitler and so on. .. so if it doen't look like that .. it will not be recognized as totalitarianism .. and so folks will not be alarmed.

    Gov't and the powers at be have gotten really good at what they do .. learned the tricks from the past .. but also learned a few more .. and some of the pitfalls to avoid .. smarter .. and better at controlling the raging masses. At the same time .. the population has been dumbed down .. in the key areas that matter.

    This is one of the reasons I am so "Alarmed" about the intentional use of propaganda by the state on its citizens. Don't care much about the Russian Propaganda .. Russia is not the one using propaganda to turn this nation into a collectivist totalitarian utopia and nor do they have any power to enact such a thing even if they were trying. Ironicly the reverse is True .. Russian propaganda turning out to not be propaganda .. but "The Truth" .. the narrative on our side being the raging propaganda. Not talking about the War in Ukraine here

    Look at "Russiagate" - FB - Ads -- A pic of Bernie with the caption "The Clinton Foundation is a problem" can you spot the "Propaganda" which by definition is something untrue .. cause I sure can't .. That is exactly what Bernie was preaching.. did reposting what Sanders was preaching .. Harm our electoral process" ? Posting the Truth ..is not Propaganda .. and claimint it as such is "Orwellian Doublespeak"

    The wiki info from the DNC hack ...Hillary and DNC dirty deeds - against Sanders .. also getting the debate questions in advance.

    Again we are told that release of this information "Harmed our Electoral Process" This again is doublespeak .. How does the voter knowing the Truth about some scum bucket politician prior to voting for them .. "HARM" our electoral process .. please riddle me that.

    Not only should have Donald done everything in his power to make this information known .. regardless of source .. one could say it was his civic and Patriotic Duty to get this information out .. despite the fact that he might benefit.
     
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    Macron was just hedging his bets with pro-Putin voters with his election upcoming.

    Congrats to President Macron for his victory over the French Fascist. Looks to be in the 58.5 to 41.5 range.... Pretty solid, but still a lot closer than his win in 2017. France dodged a bullet that the US couldn't dodge in 2016

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/macron-france-election-marine-le-pen-183943781.html

    Amazingly, this lady conceded.... I didn't think the RW knew how to do that anymore...

    I wonder what the Electoral College count was??...... Oh....... right.....
     

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