Majority of California Residents Want to Leave: Poll

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No surprise that many Latinos (whose parents entered as illegals) would want to reclaim the territory for Mexico.
     
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  2. APACHERAT

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    California state legislators want to tax water at your faucet.

    The Democrats want to tax freaking water !!!!
     
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    They already have. Have you taken at a look at your water bill?
    The state has raised water prices, and implemented a tiered progressive billing system, to try to discourage households from using water.
    If you go beyond your monthly household allotment, they make you pay out the nose paying a higher price for the additional water. You could easily end up paying $150 a month on your water bill.
     
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    Just because you keep saying it, doesn't make it true.
     
  5. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good news is that this rain year has been very plentiful. Most reservoirs in the state are at least at normal values water capacity. And more rain to come. :clapping:
     
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    Yes but droughts are a common and expected occurrence in California.
    There is not going to be enough water for all those people during the bad years, and with so many people creating so many demands on the water supply, droughts are going to become a more common occurrence.

    Already farming in the Central Valley has taken a hit, with many orchards filled with dead fruit trees. Just one or two years without water can kill or permanently cripple a tree that took 12-15 years to grow. So the economic impact on orchards is long-lasting.
     
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    It must start with civic planners taking water as well as electricity into
    appropriate consideration before approving High Rise residences as are
    now appearing in Irvine and Newport Beach.
    An easier consideration than available schools, roads, etc.



    Moi's Solution: Conservation Is A Sucker's Bet.

    Use as much infrastructure as you can afford until the above sinks in
    to the "build we must" bipartisan forces.



    Moi :oldman:
    Californian



    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    But before Mexico it was Spanish, going back to the 1500's

    All this fine distinction between "White Spanish" and "Cholos" is master race bullshit and you know it. Just another way to deny that America is as historically and culturally as Hispanic as we are British.
     
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    Yes, we live in a Mediterranean dry subtropical climate. Droughts are a regular/ historic factor, unfortunately.
     
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    Why has Mexico been sending the U.S. all their brown ones?
     
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    Must of been in 1957 I met my great grandfather who mentioned that when my great great grandfather migrated from Germany to America right after the American Civil War in the late 1860's any time his children were caught speaking German in the home he would quickly backhand them (slap) and told them..."Your in America now, you are Americans not Germans, you speak English in the home."

    Either 79 or 1980 I was in Hamana, Iowa on business, I was invited to an Amana home for dinner one night and when I entered the home everyone was speaking in German. As soon as I was noticed everyone started speaking English because it would be rude and impolite to carry on in German.

    I experienced the same thing in Little Italy in NYC.
     
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    Start a thread about old California and the Californios and I will.
     
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    We need a wall so people can be registered. The perfect solution is to let workers in on visas, that way they could work here and help our economy, while at the same time send money back home to their families to help their own nations economy grow as well..

    This is what Germany did. They had workers from Southern Europe, and gave them a 2 year permit so they wouldn't settle. That worked fine until the managers began complaining about having to train new workers so they changed their policy. I believe this is what Russia does with the workers it hires from the Central Asian states and the Far East. I read that in Moscow they process 5,000 workers a day.

    It's also not fair that the migrants pay into social security and yet will not reap the benefits when they retire. If they're not going to get the benefits they earned so they can go back home where the money will go further, then why are people complaining if they stay here? There's no logic to it.
     
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    The Democrats want to take it further, taxing every drop of water that comes out of the faucet.

    I remember back in the day when California was still the Golden State the state couldn't tax water or newspapers.
    Now they are taxing cow farts.

    I already solved that problem.

    [​IMG]

    But the Democrats will just tax Beano even more than it already is taxed.
     
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    IMMIGRATION POLICY; MEXICO FEARS THE LOSS OF AMERICA AS A SAFETY VALVE

    MARCH 15, 1987
     
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    Is that the same law used to take land from Native Americans? The same one that justified slavery?
    I always chuckle when I think about people making up some kind of rules for the game claiming a higher source, and then go and force those rules on others.
     
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    What does this have to do with Mexico "... sending us all their "brown" ones" ?
     
  19. APACHERAT

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    That all depends.

    Vattel's spends a short chapter on how to deal with Native Americans in the New World and what rights they have under the "Laws of Nations."

    The nomadic plains Indians didn't have any sovereignty because they were traveling through territory.

    Where as the Cherokees and the other civilized tribes got royally ****ed even though the federal government ignored Vattels and "Natural Law."

    President Jackson violated "Natural Law" and the "Law of Nations."

    To have sovereignty over land one has to do more than just occupy the land. The land has to be exploited and roads have to be built for trade and traveling.

    Neither Spain or Mexico ever established a wagon road from Old Mexico or Santa Fe New Mexico to California which means they never had legal sovereignty over California.

    The Mormon Battalion built a wagon trail from Santa Fe, New Mexico to California during the Mexican-American War in just a few months.

    Spain and Mexico never inhabited the lands of California more than 50 miles from the coast line.
     
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    You are offering your opinion, and that's fine. There may be a lot of truth behind it. My comments are focused on the fact that the methodology of the poll (something we should all check out before citing any poll) is not clear and some of the statements related to the graphs are questionable. Like so many polls these days, they're not done scientifically, so the results may be little more than arranged dots.
    And as far as people's teenagers and young adults being able to get entry level minimum wage jobs, that's mostly taken up by illegal aliens (and their children, and many adult immigrants from other countries).
    So that's more money you need to earn as a parent if your teenagers aren't able to get jobs.[/QUOTE]
    Not quite sure where you're going with this.
    Why would I have no idea what it's like living there?
    I'm well aware of the high cost of living, and the last time I was there that whole area from SF to LA was unbelievably crowded. I really can't see why anyone would want to live there, but to each her own.
    Yet, if the cost of living is so bad, it seems odd that immigrants would flock to the area to take minimum wage jobs. It doesn't make sense.
     
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    The Mexican government has been encouraging, aiding and abetting it's citizens to violate America's sovereignty for over fifty years as a pressure value for Mexico.

    Over 10% of Mexico's citizens are now living in the USA.

    So technically Mexico has been invading America for decades.

    Los Angeles has been under Mexican occupations for thirty years now and Mexican anchor babies are now in the California state legislature.

     
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    Don't trust 'em. Old White Southerners wouldn't be caught dead on a bus. He was lying to you.;)
     
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    And all that is predicated on a system that was made up by one group of people, and forced onto another group. It has nothing to do with "law", and everything to do with justifying behaviors. If those "laws" were actually natural, I'm sure the N.A.s would have had the paperwork to prove the land was theirs.
     
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    My brother's in laws father was Pennsylvanian Dutch, and his family had been in this country for Generations. His mother's family had come recently. Even though the German grandmother lived with them, none of the children spoke German - and that's a pity. It's the only language I really wish I knew. They also anglicized their name and became Episcopalian. Trump hid his German roots as well, and said he was Swedish - probably to protect his assets.

    When I was young my best friend's mother was German and her brother had joined the German army. She said they owned a lot of land in Germany, and from what I gather, had he not joined Hitler would have confiscated it. They managed to get him home, because I remember him after the war trying to ride a bicycle with one leg.
     
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    growing grass in a desert that's the mentality of idiocy....
     

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