Make all drugs legal; stop the myths~

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    It definitely helps with the sleep.

    I was once a big fan of opiates for that purpose. You wake up as if you're floating on a cloud. Absolute ecstacy. Of course, they're fairly addictive and you have to keep your wits about you.
     
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    Drugs are illegal in Portugal, just not criminal. They are decriminalised. Very different.

    Not something I support frankly. We just need to repeal all relevant legislation at the national and international levels, not replace it.
     
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    You're a grown ass adult, if you want to use pot, I don't see where it's anyone else's business. I don't use anything, not even alcohol, but then I'm very fortunate that I don't have to, but, if I wanted to I would certainly think that it was no one else's business.

    A MILLION HIPPIES AND CRYSTAL LADIES LOOK SMUG: Case study: Remission of metastatic breast cancer may have been due to use of cannabis oil and magic mushrooms.

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    Damn! Just 4 months!

    'A small team of medical researchers from the U.K. and the U.S. has found that a cancer patient may have put her cancer into remission by taking cannabis oil and magic mushrooms along with receiving a standard course of chemotherapy.'

    That last phrase harshes the buzz a bit.

    She was stage IV - A trained therapist helped her take the active ingredient of the mushrooms.

    'The woman kept up the treatments and she was tested several months later—in January of 2019. At that time, her doctors found that all of her tumors had vanished. At that point, the chemotherapy was stopped. The woman continued taking the cannabis oil and psilocybin hoping to avoid a recurrence of the tumors. She came back for testing in September of that year and found that there was still no evidence of cancer. At that point, she chose to reduce the amount of cannabis oil she was taking by approximately half and to stop taking the psilocybin altogether.'

    Wow!

    'Testing in June of 2020, showed that the cancer had returned. The patient then once again began receiving chemotherapy and also began her cannabis oil and psilocybin regimen. By October 2021, the tumors had been "stabilized." And that is where the details end. It is not known if she once again cleared her tumors or if things grew worse.'

    Maybe she shouldn't have cut back.

    Just one person, more study needed. I wish her the best.
     
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    I wouldn't call cannabis harmless. I say that as someone who has probably smoked over 300 ounces over my lifetime.

    There is no avoiding burning plant matter being harmful. You can get around this with edibles and vaporisers, but if you are smoking bud you are increasing your risk of cancer.

    There are few bad health effects from nicotine, the dire effects come from inhalation of burning plant matter.

    I have tried nearly every drug at least once, including many different types of opioids, amphetamines, benzos, LSD, psilocybin, DMT, ketamine, various anaesthetics. As far as I know the only drugs I haven't tried are heroin and meth.

    My life is happy and successful, but it takes a strong person to do this and not go off the rails.

    Legality should be the goal but we shouldn't be under any illusions as to the harmful effect of drugs. Alcohol included.

    I like to think of it this way: climbing K2 has a 25% chance of death. We still allow people to climb K2. We would however be very skeptical of someone with no climbing experience doing so.

    Your best choice: don't do drugs. Your second best choice: do drugs responsibly. Have a glass of cognac with a show, don't drink vodka Red Bulls until 6 in the morning.
     
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    Quite a few cancers do just spontaneously "remiss", but this is not something that should be ignored.

    NO drug should be illegal, as a drug. Fentanyl, however, is a rather strong poison and should be regulated as such.
     
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    Fentanyl is an opioid. It is only different in degree from other opioids. You can convert fentanyl at a certain dose to any other opioid at a certain dose.

    The problem is that a) It's a lot stronger than other opioids per milligram, b) on the illicit market it can be hard to discern what you have, and so think your fentanyl is oxycodone and take a fatal overdose.

    It's not any more a poison in proper dosages than oxycodone, alcohol, or anything else.
     
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    OICOK
    But isn't Mother's Milk poisonous given the dosage? (or overdosage really) and is fentanyl made in a lab, Breaking Bad style?
     

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