Make hydride legal and no need for gas. Convert water to hyrogen

Bob lazar does runs his car with a machine that separates hydrogen from water, and runs his car on hydrogen. Hydride is illegal to purchase (it's used in atomic weapons, but it's safe itself ), but there is no law against making it. However, to make it, you need a particle accelerator. Guess what,
he built his own. This is Bob Lazar, the UFO guy.


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Hate to tell you but that sounds like a bunch of whacky fake science.

Those videos do not seem to tell exactly how this idea works.

 

I hate to tell you but it's not fake.

Why do you assume Bob has to tell you how it works?

 

I have a beauty of a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.

I'll sell it to your for cheap, because I like you.

 

You need to watch the recent Bob Lazar documentary that's on Netflix.

https://www.netflix.com/title/81083891

It's really really sad to see what becomes of a person who lives a lie for basically their entire life.

 

One wonders what runs the machine that breaks down water and how much energy is required to run it. One also wonders why the auto industry hasn't gotten involved. Experimentation is a good thing. False claims are something else.

 

It's an electric car. The hydrogen is just a battery.
Plug power makes them for fork lifts.

I never heard of using a particle accelerator. They usually use a catalyst, a type of metal that attracts certain ions.

 

A good comparison of fuel cell hydrogen VS normal batteries. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...vive-threaten-battery-technology-in-cars/amp/

A cool house energy storage option in Australia...
https://lavo.com.au/lavo-hydrogen-battery/

 

Toyota has a hydrogen car and has filling stations in the SF and LA areas.

That's been going on for some number of years and doesn't look like its taking off.

Manufacturers (including Toyota) are choosing electric batteries, not hydrogen - which is just a battery, too.

 

Great articles!

The list of plusses and minuses is changing, I think, as the range of electric battery cars is exceeding the 300 mile limit listed as a hydrogen advantage in the article.

Also, one always has to go to a service station for hydrogen. With electric batteries you just plug in at night.

That changes for trips in excess of 300 miles, but I just have a hard time seeing that as such a limit that we need hydrogen.

For one thing, current battery technolog continues to change rapidly.

Batteries based on capacitor technology are coming. The idea there is that capacitors can be "filled" FAR faster, with no damage to the battery and with less loss than the chemical batteries used today. That means more distance, lower energy cost, fast refilling.

Capacitor based batteries can recover energy from braking far more efficiently, too - something hydrogen alone can not help with. So, even if the car just has enough capacitor based capacity for recovering break/coasting energy, it would extend the 300 mile range of electric cars today.

 

I really don't like the "run you car on water" meme.

The past is full of fake science on that meme, and while what's going on here is unlikely to work (imho), there isn't anything fake about producing and then using hydrogen.

 

On second look, apologies to that kook, Bob Lazar.

He wasn't making any pseudoscientific or UFO kookery claims with his "hydrogen car".

His science isn't wrong, it's just highly impractical.

He's converting electricity supplied by a conventional source into hydrogen by the butt-simple process of electrolysis. Then he's putting that hydrogen into a hydrogen fuel cell as a storage method, and then he's taking the hydrogen out of the fuel cell to power the car.

The whole hydrogen thing is an unnecessary middle man that just introduces lots of energy loss into the system and reduces efficiency,

Why not just eliminate the hydrogen middle man, and put the conventionally-generated electricity into a battery, and then run the car off that energy? You know, exactly like millions of electric cars are already doing.

You could sort of make the argument for hydrogen as an energy storage method if you proposed that it would eliminate the pollution caused by the batteries in electric cars, BUT, hydrogen fuel cells also require lots of pollution-prone and expensive rare-earth minerals, so they're a problem equal to, or worse than, the lithium batteries in electric cars.

So Bob Lazar's hydrogen car isn't a scam, it's just a bad idea.

 

Bob Lazar clarifies that point up front, did you watch it?

 

Amen.

Plus, I just don't see any way for hydrogen batteries to overtake the electric battery future.

 

I just assumed that since it was Bob Lazar, it was kookery. Given his history, that's generally a safe assumption.

Upon further investigation, I see that his hydrogen car wasn't a flim flam, it was just an inefficient Rube Goldberg contraption that never went anywhere.

 

Until there's reliable and CHEAP public transportation NATIONWIDE the futuremobiles will remain the playthings of the affluent...or is that the end game, get them peasants off the roads.

 

Nope! I don't really doubt what he's doing. I just chose to believe him on that, as it's clearly all possible.

I just hate it being presented with the "run your car on water" meme.

The Toyota effort on hydrogen was serious. The fact that it's not taking off hits me as serious.

 

Also, since there is not electrical battery in Bob Lazar's hydrogen car, you can't do any sort of "regenerative braking" trick to recapture energy like you can with an electric car. That alone gives away a big hunk of energy.

 

You really should watch both videos, which diffuses your arguments.

He's using 'hydride'. Now, it is illegal to purchase hydride, but it is not illegal to make it yourself.

So, if you can make your own hydride, which Bob can do, the issues you raise become nonexistent. he can make his own hydride because he has a home built DIY particle accelerator.

If you can do that, then the cost of your fuel is the same as the cost of water minus the initial cost of the equipment to make it.

then it becomes the cheapest, and greenest, alternative.

It's also safer. You can throw a match on those tanks, try and cut them with a chain saw, and they won't catch on fire.

Much safer than gasoline.

But, I'm no expert, Im just going by the information he presented.

 

Now you're getting into the weeds of pseudoscience. If Bob is claiming all the particle accelerator mumbo jumbo, then I'm going to put him right back in the kook box.

 

yes quantumscape is making those Capacitor like batteries. I think they will definitely be required for small gadgets but Lithium keeps having shortages and they still require the mineral. I also think they are heavier and harder to recyle and dispose of than hydrogen fuel cells.

I think its more likely we will see a breakup where Hydrogen Fuel Cell will be used in houses, and SolidState battieries will be used in laptops, cell phones, small drones, etc... I definitely could see hydrogen becoming the Large Industrial battery to help with with wind and solar power plants or even replacing backup generators at hospitals and large data-server buildings.

Cars could actually be a hybrid of the two. I can see filling up on hydrogen being a faster charge than electrically charging your system even with the 10 times faster charge of the Solid State Batteries. Still, power is needed to start and run the hydrogen system anyways. So I think it will be a hybrid of both.

 

Okay, I'll take Bob back out of the kook box. He does indeed face the reality of the rare earth materials problem, and he doesn't claim any magical particle accelerator rare-earth material manufacturing mumbo jumbo.

At least not here he doesn't-

 

Er, what specifically is illegal? Hydride is kinda a loose term. Water is a hydride of oxygen, for example. A machine that separates water into O and H is pretty easy to make. Just run electricty through water and done. Its called electrolysis. Collecting the H is a little more complicated than that, but not much. Not sure why a particle accelerator would be necessary... a solar panel would suffice. Is this the Rube Goldberg of electrolysis?

Honda used to sell a hydrogen powered car that came with a little base station that you plugged into the water and power at your home and it sat there electrolysizing and collecting H for you to fill ur car with when u got home. It had very limited range and a $100K pricetag back in 2000 or so, so it wasn't popular. But it worked.
Honda FCX - Wikipedia

 

The only thing holding back wonderfully multi-purpose hydrogen is the current cost of electricity for the hydrolysis. Once home solar units are inexpensive and efficient enough (and that may not be far off) cheap energy independence will be here. Then, it will just be a matter of seeing if the oil companies accept no longer making hundreds of dollars per second.

 

it looks like Lazar is using lithium 6 deuteride as a means to more efficiently store the H. A simpler solution would be to have a slightly larger car with bigger H tanks... no deuteride required.