Making the ownership of handguns illegal

This is a poll for Americans. Repealing the 2nd Amendment, amending the 2nd Amendment or making guns illegal by ignoring the 2nd Amendment …. whatever. What would be the consequence of making handguns illegal?

 

Would make mo difference whatsoever. Criminals will still get their hands on them anyway. And how, exactly do you plan on getting the current 200 million or so firearms out of the publics hands? It wouldn't end well...

 

I believe it will be the same as it has been for anything legal becoming illegal. The people that want X (ie gun, alcohol, abortion, etc.) will find a way to get it. Laws only keep honest people honest. The rest are going to do what they want to do anyway.

 

Fundamentally an illegal and unconstitutional act. Why do yo hate the constitution?

 

If any attempt to stop such fails and the 2nd Amendment gets repealed by the elites there will be more deaths. Because there WILL be a civil war at that point. That's not even a question. You take peoples Right to self defense away and it opens the door to having all your other Rights taken away.

The only way amending the 2nd Amendment would work is if it was amended to shore up the right to bare arms so that anti-gun folks couldn't try and ignore the part where the 2nd Amendment says "the Right of the People". Anything else would cause a civil war.

And if its just flat out ignored, over time a civil war would happen. After all other resources are exhausted in getting such an unconstitutional law repealed.

 

What makes you think repealing or amending the 2nd Amendment is "illegal" or "unconstitutional"?

How can you hate a "thing"?

 

That can be said of any law, no? Do speed limits not decrease unsafe speeds on roads?

 

Honest people follow the law. Changing the gun laws will drive them underground and criminals will find a way to get them on the black market. It's the same formula for anything that is made illegal.

 

That's sort of a contradiction, isn't it? Seriously.

As I said .......

... and it isn't really a logical argument against implementing any law.

 

Because the bill of rights aren't designed to be amended. Simple stuff here. This isn't controversial position. Why do you feel you can terminate fundamental human rights?

 

It Is Not The Ownership

but, rather the unlawful discharge of a firearm

as well as threatening or injuring another with one


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No Registration
No Licensing
No Permit
Open or Concealed Carry

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I think you might see a short term increase in the beginning. But over time as handguns slowly got taken out of general circulation, they would go down.

 

Like drugs?

 

You would have all the gun nuts go crazy, which could lead to violence and more conspiracy nonsense, but over time, it would become the norm. However, no politician would get on board w/a repeal of the 2nd Amendment, but a ban on specific guns and ammo, yeah, that is much more doable.

 

Do you support the elimination of the 2nd Amendment?

 

More doable . . . but why? I mean, any gun or ammo you could think about banning, there are more powerful options out there, so it can't be a power issue. What would be the measure?

 

Not necessarily.

 

I don't believe high-powered ammo (like .223 and .30 should be sold for weapons that are semi-auto. I don't think it's right to allow the public to purchase a weapon that is as good or better than those used for military service unless you have a specific valid reason (like you're a bodyguard or security who needs that kind of firepower).

 

First of all, this is false and secondly, it has nothing to do with the thread. Didn't you read the OP? The idea with a subject/discussion/poll is to respond to it .... not to some off-topic jibberish.

What are you talking about? Guns ≠ "human rights".

 

All of them? Yeah, maybe you're right.

That would shatter the "gun nuts" = "law-abiding citizenry" BS.

I can't agree with you more. I believe that anyone who is earnest and honest enough would come to the same conclusion.

Not today, anyway. There are two intertwined factors at work to prevent it. 1. The power & wealth of industry and 2. (by virtue of the first) the influence on elections.

A good start.

 

Good point. I don't understand exactly how it would be an initial increase in the beginning but you might be right.

 

Drugs create a problem with self-inflicted addiction, guns create a homicidal problem. If drugs = addiction = crime then I would rather some crack-head punch me in the face to get at my wallet than to shoot me dead for it.

 

You missed my point, being that drugs can't be controlled. So what makes you think that banning guns will be any more effective aside from criminalizing every law abiding citizen in this country. What an accomplishment, eh? Sober up.

 

Suicides by handgun would probably decline, but increase proportionately by other methods since guns are not what cause people to want to die. Homicides by handgun would not change much as those who want to commit violence with handguns will get handguns regardless of a ban (if the war on drugs has had any benefit to society at all, it should be to teach us that banning objects doesnt work). Robbery, burglary, home invasion and assault however would all increase as it became less and less likely that individual law-abiding victims would be equipped to effectively defend themselves.

 

Controlled? Speeding is illegal. That's the law. Do you think it "controls" speeders or only makes it less likely for drivers to speed? I don't think I know what you mean by "control" but I don't think you know either. Once you've figured that out you can then apply it to the possession of guns and the consequences of making it illegal .... and let me know what you've decided. Maybe you'll find you've made a mistake in your vote?

It is I who is asking the questions. The poll is clear. Maybe you didn't understand it?

But FYI, "law-abiding citizens" (as you say) are those who respect and abide by the law, not necessarily those who agree with it. Murderers are criminals only because they disobey the law against homicide. I suppose we can turn them into "law-abiding citizens" by making murder legal. What an accomplishment, eh?

That is exactly my advice to you.