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Man Accused of Hate Crime for Refusing To Have Sex with Transgender Who Has Male Genitalia

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by TOG 6, Dec 2, 2019.

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    No - that's the excuse you choose to use as a means to avoid the issue.
     
    TOG 6, Dec 4, 2019
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    I heard TOG 6 did (terrible thing). We should all condemn him for (terrible thing). Don’t question how I know this, what my motives are, or if this is even true unless you’re avoiding addressing the issue.
     
    DaveBN, Dec 4, 2019
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Bless your heart.
     
    TOG 6, Dec 4, 2019
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    DaveBN Well-Known Member

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    No thanks.
     
    DaveBN, Dec 4, 2019
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    No. Refusing to have a homosexual relationship is never immoral.

    He should counter sue for fraud..
     
    Robert E Allen, Dec 4, 2019
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    He’s not being sued.
     
    DaveBN, Dec 4, 2019
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    This issue is "criminal"; "immoral" is another story entirely.
    Of course, if something is a "hate crime", it must be immoral as well.
     
    TOG 6, Dec 4, 2019
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    It's not immoral to not be homosexual..
     
    Robert E Allen, Dec 4, 2019
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    That’s correct. It’s not immoral to be homosexual either.
     
    DaveBN, Dec 4, 2019
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    Yes it is.

    As are hate crimes laws. As they create a situation where some people are more valuable than others.
     
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    Your argument on hate crime laws may hold some merit, but what makes being homosexual immoral?
     
    DaveBN, Dec 4, 2019
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    Aside from the fact no one here said it is....
    Doesn't that depend on who you're talking to?
     
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    God, the one who defines morality.
     
    Robert E Allen, Dec 4, 2019
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    No morality is set in stone and never changes.
     
    Robert E Allen, Dec 4, 2019
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    Yeah - good luck selling that.
     
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    Society dictates morality. Ours is a secular one, even if members of the population subscribe to one sect of religion or another. What power should a god have over one that does not believe?
     
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    Not trying to sell it to theophobes. Just stating it as an undeniable truth that without accepting a person cannot understand the world and how to properly live in it.
     
    Robert E Allen, Dec 4, 2019
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    Most people who do not believe get along just fine in this world.
     
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    No society determines what is acceptable to it.. morality is different.
    God has all the power.. we have none.
     
    Robert E Allen, Dec 4, 2019
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    For now.
     
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    Unfortunately, this presumes the existence of God.
    Someone who disagrees with you will ask you to prove God, and when you can't, your position falls apart.
     
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    Being a man and destroying your body to pass yourself as a woman is fraudulent.
    Then accusing someone of hate when they discover your fraud is immoral.
     
    Robert E Allen, Dec 4, 2019
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    What is even more hilarious is the number of posts about transgender folks. Why the preoccupation?
     
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    No the position is rock solid because it's the truth. The argument only falls apart in the minds of theophobes. Who wouldn't believe even if God proved Himself to them.
     
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    It's what happens when people try to push their religious views on others and change the fabric of society for religious reasons.
     
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