Man created (the Christian) God

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  1. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

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    People invented the Christian God. Got any doubts? Check this out:

    1. Jesus is considered 1 of the 3 parts of the Holy Trinity, aka God.
    2. Jesus is also referred to as "the son of man" many times in the Bible.

    So, we put 2+2 and what do we get? 1/3 of God is "the son of man", i.e. human invention.

    Any objections? :)
     
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    Nope. Now calculate the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. I don't care whether people believe in a God/Gods or not, I just grow weary of the all crowing over something that can't be definitively proven or disproven, it's all a matter of faith for BOTH camps. And everybody finds out individually who's right soon enough, I'm content to leave it at that. more people should do the same.
     
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    Can’t say it much better than that
     
  4. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

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    Well, it's not me who coined the phrase "the son of man".
    I think God creates people, not the other way round. :lol:

    I know that to be "devils". And joke aside, one could theoretically calculate how many "corona devils" (i.e. covid-19 cells) could fit on a head of a pin. :lol:
     
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    Men invented all religions.
     
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    Yes. I’m not sure how your conclusion follows from the premises.
     
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    God was created by man long before Christianity, they just copied it from prior God religions
     
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    sounds legit.
     
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    1 In the beginning Man created God;
    and in the image of Man
    created he him.
    2 And Man gave unto God a multitude of
    names, that he might be Lord of all
    the earth when it was suited to Man
    3 And on the seven millionth
    day Man rested and did lean
    heavily on his God and saw that
    it was good.
    4 And Man formed Aqualung of
    the dust of the ground, and a
    host of others likened unto his kind.
    5 And these lesser men were cast into the
    void; And some were burned, and some were
    put apart from their kind.
    6 And Man became the God that he had
    created and with his miracles did
    rule over all the earth.
    7 But as all these things
    came to pass, the Spirit that did
    cause man to create his God
    lived on within all men: even
    within Aqualung.
    8 And man saw it not.
    9 But for Christ's sake he'd
    better start looking.

    Jethro Tull
     
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    Nope.
     
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    Men invented physics, too. And where would we be without physics?
     
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    Lol...better off maybe?

    Where do you think we would be without physics?
     
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    False equivalence.
     
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    Jesus is the literal physical Son of God as it was the sperm of the Father implanted into Mary by the physician, the Holy Ghost. In vitro fertilization has been performed by man now for years. The idea shouldn't be so questionable anymore. Yet, it is by non-believers. The Father could create the Universe but not fertilize Mary? Think McFly think!
    As for being the Son of Man, two directions I could go. The most mentioned is that Jesus being a man would be able to atone for our sins because of being human he could die as part of the atonement and then be resurrected to complete the atonement. Another possibility is that Jesus is a descendent of Father Adam, father of the human race. We are all sons (and daughters) of Adam. So, Jesus is literally the Son of Man (The First Man). So, in leu of this information, how again is God a human invention?
     
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    Men invented physics? Where? How? Men study physics but physics has existed since God organized the Universe.
     
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    How so? Seems like a good equivalence to me.
     
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    Men invented physics by observing their surroundings and writing it down. The Universe predates Man. The mathematical description of it did not. Malta.predates Man but the map of Malta does not.
     
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    We wouldn't be communicating. As to if we would be better off without physics, I say no. But that is a subject about which reasonable men can reasonably differ.

    And I daresay you are not living a physics free life.
     
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    You really have to re-think your statement and reasoning. Back to high school geometry you go! Man did not invent something that predates man on earth. They began to study physics and explain physics. The word you are using "invented" is the wrong word. Physics is a natural occurrence in our universe which has existed for 13.4 billion years some people say. Long before man. :juggle:
     
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    That will depend upon the definition of what an angel is. Do angels have mass? Do they have size and shapes? That has to be answered first and I would say yes to both questions. So, I doubt even one angel could and would dance on a pin. After all, why would they want to dance on a pin? Would you? :angel:
     
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    Man began to study and explain nature, not physics. You are making a category error. Nature and physics are two different things.
     
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    Physics (and all science) is based on quantifying and qualifying the world around us (it actually exists as something "measurable")
    Man made religions are based on finding some type of "inner peace" to explain things that are not tangible or measurable.

    One requires a ruler and compass. The other type depends on where you are born, what your elders teach you about their belief system and what you choose to accept without factual or actual proof.
     
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    And what in your analysis demonstrates that physics is not an invention of man.
     
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    Reread my post to your last message. Clue: It's in the first sentence.
     
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    Sorry. That doesn't help. Physical threories are invented by men based on observations of nature. So what?

    Religious theories are invented by men based on supernatural experiences.

    Same process, different subject matter.
     
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