Man has landed on the Moon. July 20, 1969. Sir, questions, sir.

Because the answer is obvious. Thats why I ignored you. I would also ignore someone who wanted to know why the sun rises every day, and for the same reason. Their question is so stupid, and the answer so obvious, that answering them would be a waste of my time.

 

Translation–

It's so obvious that those safety cables are buoyant and are in a water tank that, if I try to obfuscate it, I'll just end up looking silly so I'd better use evasive tactics.

As I've said before, there's a point at which evidence is so clear that sophistry becomes ineffective. The best sophist in the world couldn't convince a ten-year-old that those safety cables were moving the way they were because of "Shape memory". Betamax is one of the most skilled sophists I've ever seen and he had to use the "Declare victory and disappear" strategy to avoid dealing with it. All you pro-Apollo people can do is tap dance around and use evasive tactics with this issue. It's simply too clear to obfuscate. The way you people deal with this issue shows that you're not objective when you analyze the Apollo anomalies and you are to be ignored.

 

You need a new translator. LOL

 

It's so clear that those cables are buoyant and in a water tank that it makes a good objectivity test to give to pro-Apollo people. They have to choose between tap dancing around and avoiding the issue the way Sadistic-Savior is doing, or trying to obfuscate it and looking silly the way Betamax did.

This is a legitimate question Sadistic-Savior. Please give us your analysis of the alledged buoyant safety cables in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
Watch the thick cable at these time marks.
0:50
2:10
3:00
3:10
6:08
6:44
6:53

NASA's official position is that the Chinese spacewalk was real so this is not off-topic.

 

Yeah, it si so clear that everyone agrees the first time they see it.

Oh wait, no they dont. Only fringe retards and conspiracy theorists (really the same thing) appear to agree.

 

Stop tap dancing around and anaylze it. Your tactics would get you laughed out of the debating hall.

 

Your retarded premise would not even get you into the debating hall. They would roll their eyes and just ignore you.

 

This is a debate and I'm asking you to analyze an alledged anomaly. Refusing to answer constitutes losing the debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
Watch the thick cable at these time marks.
0:50
2:10
3:00
3:10
6:08
6:44
6:53

Tell us why the thick cable goes upward the way a buoyant cable would in a water tank. If you think it isn't consistent with its being in a water tank, say why.

 

I haven't disappeared. I have this weekend before I shall bow out. You did not answer to any of the points I raised. That translates to:-

"I am just a dumb conspiracy theorist, and I have no means to answer."

The debating hall wouldn't even allow you in for being incompetent in all of the necessary sciences. The cables go up, down, left and right. Both of them. No matter how much you deny it, then respam your links, not one person has agreed with you. Your refusal to answer how an air umbilical will not rise, yet a tether cable will, speaks volumes about your blatant dishonesty. It is shape memory.

Your insistance that the piece of debris is a "bubble" is simply moronic in the face of overwhelming evidence that shows it rotating and changing shape. You are quite literally out of your depth with physics. You assert the increase is because the pressure variant in what is no more than 1/2 a metre, yet the object increase 4-5 times its original size. This is because it angles towards the wide angled camera.

Volume is directly proportional to pressure:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyle's_law
http://www.helium.com/items/1190635-examples-of-boyles-law

"Boyle's law states that if the temperature of a gas is kept constant, the pressure if the gas is inversely proportional to the volume. Which suggests that in an ideal situation where the temperature does not change, if either the pressure or volume is increased the other one will decrease by the same proportion."

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/other/games/depth_press
Just add any number to the depth(set the pressure to "bar"), one can see quite easily that a change in depth of even a metre produces no more than 10% change in size!

Wave-blowers:- busted.
Bubble:- busted.
Cables:- busted.

The guffaws of laughter in the debating hall await you

 

Viewers should start watching this video at the 3:40 time mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=NVbBFwdmldA

They should also watch the thick cables in this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6h

...at these time marks.

0:50
2:10
3:00
3:10
6:08
6:44
6:53

Anyone who actually watches the footage will see that you don't even believe your own arguments. Only the thick cable is buoyant. There is never any sideways or downward movement that's consistent with shape memory. It only moves upward when it's consistent with its being buoyant in a water tank.

NASA's official position on the Chinese spacewalk is that it was real so NASA's credibility is shot. You pro-Apollo people say it was real so your credibility is shot too so nothing you say about Apollo is to be taken seriously.

When you pro-official version people are faced with an anomaly that's as clear as this one, you know that you're not fooling anyone with your attempts to obfuscate it. You seem to be trying to sway those viewers who don't take the time to click on the links and actually look at it. I suppose some of those people can be swayed by rhetoric. Also, conceding defeat attracts a lot more attention. From your perspective continuously denying the obvious is probably the best strategy; you can tire out the truther until he stops posting and then bury the part of the debate where you looked like horses' a---s deep in the thread. That's why there are Apollo hoax threads on some forums that are more than one hundred pages long. The Apollo debate is really just a war in which the truthers are posting the evidence and the disinfo agents who are trying to bury it to reduce the number of people who see it. That's why it's good to put all the evidence on the first page when an Apollo hoax thread is started. They can't bury it and there's really nothing they can to do make people think Apollo was real after people have seen the evidence as there's a lot of it that's simply too clear to obfuscate.

You said the movement of the thick safety cable was not consistent with its being buoyant in a water tank so nothing you say about anything really matters now. The only thing left for me to do here is to post your lame analysis of it from time to time to thwart your efforts to bury it.

 

Once again you have completely ignored all the points I raised, not least the pressure volume relationship that completely blows your ridiculous "bubble" nonsense out of the water! Your insistence that a flag moves through a viscous medium unrestricted like it does is just pure stupidity.

"Viewers" can watch this portion and see that the curved part of the cable is now horizontal and moves sideways rather than upwards:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gMxQEHfU6hM#t=320s

They can watch this small segement and see the cable going downwards:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gMxQEHfU6hM#t=385s

They can watch this video and see the astronauts before exit and see that not only is there not the slightest evidence of a single trapped bubble when the hatch is opened, they can see the cables curved from shape memory, away from the body:-

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD4a49xBUZw"]Shen Zhou 7 China Astronaut Space Walk 神舟七号出仓太空行走 part1 - YouTube[/ame]

You have no reference for wave-blowers, case dismissed. Your "bubble" has been proven to be a piece of space debris, and its relative size change impossible in a 1/2metre change in depth, case dismissed.

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-1.html
http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-2.html


Dunning Kruger

"The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to appreciate their mistakes."

 

The thinner cable is resting on top of the buoyant thicker cable. That's why it doesn't go up. Anyone who looks closely can see that and it doesn't make the other cases I cited go away.

It's pulled tight and going slighty upward because of buoyancy. When he gives it a sharp pull, it goes from upward to downward the way the force of being pulled would make it go and then it resumes its natural tendancy to go upward.

These were pretty lame attempts at obfuscation.

 

Meh! No it isn't.

Nobody is looking closely, because anybody who has a braincell will be sufficiently educated to see your claims as ridiculous. Your "other cases" are simple unrestricted movement of a cable that bears the shape memory from its manufacture.

I appear to be missing out on something, and that would be any response at all to the major points I have made. You are a most irritating troll with a disregard for detail, and the inability to recognize clear proof.

Bubbles, flags and cables.