Man injured after officer involved shooting in Kenosha

We will see in the next couple of days.

 

I don't have that expectation but I do have the understanding that is what could happen. That is why even I as a white guy, tread extremely carefully when I am pulled over or approached by the police. It may be because I was raised in a Christian household with 2 parents who enforced the rules of the house by force. Spankings and physical punishment was often employed when rules and commands were not followed. So I developed a healthy fear and respect for authority. Without the danger of loss of life or at least physical force being used, laws and rules are impotent and you get rioting and looting in the streets as we see in many democrat run cities full of children raised in single parent, non functional homes.

 

You can hear them say "drop the knife" repeatedly in the video. Weird you'd lead off with "unarmed".

 

Shooting someone in the back when they are not actively fighting you is wrong.
The cops should have batons and use them or tasers. Lethal weapons should be used as a last resort. The cop who shot this guy could have grabbed him by the neck and thrown him to the ground.
I had my own brushes with the law back in Ukraine when I was a teenager and know what it is when a cop points an AK-47 at you. I agree that in most police shootings the suspects cause their own demise, but in this case I can think of a few things the cops could have done that wouldn’t involve shooting.

 

98% of people refusing to comply with a law officer know either a) theyre doing something far worse than the officer is aware of and they know if the officer investigates further they're going to be hit with serious charges or B) they've got outstanding warrants and they don't want to go to jail.

In those 98% of instances, the suspect will not go quietly regardless of what some stupid ass social worker tries to explain to them.

In which case, violence has to be used.

Not because the police want to.

But because the suspect is willing to avoid arrest by any means necessary.

By any means necessary.

You can't reason with someone who has nothing to lose. That's why the Taliban and the Viet Cong were so successful. They had nothing to lose.

So the only way to handle the situation is escalation of force, because the suspect has nothing to lose, so reasoning and conversation isn't going to change anything.

It's 100% up to the suspect how it all goes down. The officers don't have a say in the matter.

 

Can't use batons anymore. They're too effective and scary looking.

The guy had a knife, clearly, we heard it several times. Personally I'm not trying to grapple with someone carrying a knife but, hey, we can all say what the officers SHOULD have done (no matter how misguided). The question is did he have a gun in his vehicle.

The next question is, if you were the cop, would you feel safe assuming he didn't?

 

It doesn't matter if there was a gun in the car the officers had reason to believe there he was going for one they do not have to wait until he points one at them.

 

They started last night. They burned down some poor guys used car lot destroying all the cars. What did he have to do it? What are we going to do about controlling this out of control violent group of people and harm and destroy and attack innocent people because they are created something in their own minds to be aggrieved about?

 

• Video circulating online shows at least one police officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin, repeatedly shoot a Black man who was walking away from officers to get into a car.
  
  
• The Kenosha Police Department acknowledged the shooting in a statement. They said officers were called to a "domestic incident" on Sunday afternoon.
  
  
• Local media named the man as Jacob Blake. The police said he was in serious condition in a hospital after the shooting.
  
  
• So far little information is available about the events that led to the shooting.
  
  
• Witnesses told The Kenosha News that the man was unarmed and had been trying to break up a dispute between two women when the police were called.
  https://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-police-wisconsin-shooting-090615595.html

A response to a domestic violence.

 

Indeed. The BLM response to this is immoral, to say the least. If you're frustrated because criminals get shot, then stop committing crimes. Pretty simple.

 

If he was really trying to break up a domestic abuse call that he had nothing to do with, why didn't he calmly and peacefully stand there and talk to the officers?

Your points raise more questions than they answer, unfortunately.

 

Why don't we wait until the evidence comes In instead of auto pilot knee jerk saying it was a bad shoot as you and most blacks always do?

 

Comply or die? Sounds like good policy to me. Cops want to go home after their shift and if they tell someone to put their hands behind their head but instead that person reaches into a vehicle, open fire.

 

FALSE - not obeying the lawful orders of the police, turning your back on them to walk away and then opening a car door and reaching to wear a gun might be located is wrong and will get you shot. And police can no longer grab you by the neck remember and that would not have prevented him from firing a weapon had he reached one anyway.

 

Could have been a flamethrower. Or maybe a box of puppies. If cops are allowed to use their imagination to create threats the possibilities are endless.

 

Apparently some need the guy coming out of the vehicle with an ak 47 and killing a few cops before cops can shoot back.

 

If you defy police commands and instead reach into your vehicle expect go be shot and rightfully so.

 

The video I saw had very poor volume and sound. Have a link?

 

Or a pistol, like the last time he was arrested.

 

I was wondering why they already had there guns drawn in the video when I was watching on my tablet and now I hear the "drop the knife" on my PC speakers.

Done deal, he refused the lawful orders of the police, he was armed and trying to flee and what appeared to be reaching for gun in the car.

What are the protest all about then?

 

The YouTube link in the OP has it.

 

Certainly looked like he was trying to get a gun out of the car. I believe the man has a history of gun crime. The left will make him out to be a saint. BTW, youtube has taken down the video but it is currently available on other sites.

 

The link says the video has been removed for offending people.

 

I don't hear that at all. By now the police should have a full statement on any weapons, what caused the confrontation, and have body camera footage released. Yet crickets.

 

A reasonable person would conclude he is reaching for a weapon. If people are allowed to disobey the lawful orders of the police, turn and try to flee WHILE ARMED, you can hear them yelling for him to drop the knife, and try to reach into a car and get a gun the possibility of a police officer getting shot and killed and the criminal escaping are endless.