man involved in car crash charged with manslaughter after woman has miscarriage

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Want has no bearing on the the personhood of a human in the fetal stage of development.
Evoking the law as the basis of philosophical argument is sophomoric at best.
Congratulations on your achievement

 

No, it isn't and I didn't say it was........but I am enjoying your flailing around with no point in sight....

Here's the post of mine you quoted to show I did not say "" he's being prosecuted for taking her choice away, not for killing a fetus,""



FoxHastings said: ↑
I don't have to.....seems like the law is moving right along doing the right thing which includes punishing those who take away a woman's right to choose ...


The lawyers prosecuting him don't need your little "dictionary people" ""

 

The mother didn't CHOOSE to lose her baby.. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

 

I'm not flailing at all.

You're the one arguing: woman kills unwanted fetus = not murder. Someone else kills wanted/unwanted fetus = murder

That's a game of twister right there.

 

So what?

Murder isn't determined by how much you like your baby, it's determined by it's status as a human being.

Killing a fetus is legal.

 

It was manslaughter, duh, that's not the same as murder and you still have no point.....

YES, women can choose to abort.
Yes, if someone else kills her fetus /newborn, it's manslaughter.


Ain't life grand

 

The mother had no choice in the car crash...

 

So a fetus is a human being when the mother wants it, and when the mother doesn't want it, it's not a human being.

 

Yet you can only commit manslaughter against a human being.

 

:lol My achievement?!!!!! I am simply discussing why I agree with the manslaughter charge. I assume we are both parents (Since we both picked cartoon characters for our forum names) and would want justice if it was one of our unborn children. While it is entertaining to read your attempts to invalidate my opinion by trying to appear more intelligent, it doesn't address the issue. What do you think the drunk driver should be charged with?

 

No one said that. I certainly never said it in the post of mine you quoted so you must've pulled it out of the air...

Please for once be honest and point out EXACTLY where anyone said a human fetus is not human.

It is not A human being as in "person", but it is always human.

...and NONE of that has anything to do with the issue under discussion.....as I said , you are flailing and have no point.

 

Again I point you to the definition of manslaughter.

Manslaughter can only be charged for the killing of a human being.

So the fetus is a human being all the time, or only when the mother wants to keep it?

Can she quickly change it back and forth if she changes her mind from human being to fetus?

That's an awesome power right there.

 

I answered.
FoxHastings said: ↑
No one said that. I certainly never said it in the post of mine you quoted so you must've pulled it out of the air...

Please for once be honest and point out EXACTLY where anyone said a human fetus is not human.

It is not A human being as in "person", but it is always human.

...and NONE of that has anything to do with the issue under discussion.....as I said , you are flailing and have no point.










You responded , quoting my post which explained it to you and you still couldn't comprehend English....what IS your problem?

YOU did NOT show where anyone said a fetus wasn't human.



"SHE" doesn't DO anything. Women do NOT change anything. Did you read those two sentences? Could you understand the woman does NOT CHANGE anything. NOTHING is changed by the woman.

Abortion, ONE THING, is not manslaughter, ANOTHER THING and women do NOT change that.

WHETHER THE WOMAN WANTS THE KID OR NOT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAW SAYING THIS GUY COMMITTED MANSLAUGHTER.

The human fetus is always human, BUT it is NOT A human BEING as in "person with rights" until it's BORN.




The human fetus is always human, BUT it is NOT A human BEING as in "person with rights" until it's BORN.



The human fetus is always human, BUT it is NOT A human BEING as in "person with rights" until it's BORN.

 

What if the woman was indecisive about killing her fetus, but then before she could finally make up her mind someone came along and made the decision for her?

Would that be equivalent to half a manslaughter?

I mean she had already scheduled the procedure at an abortion clinic but had told her partner she wasn't sure she could go through with it. Then someone trying to evade the police crashes into her causing her to have a miscarriage.

Or if the woman who suffered a miscarriage didn't even know she was pregnant but she had already had 15 abortions in the past (so we can infer was likely going to have an abortion this time around too).

 

If it has no rights then how can you be charged with manslaughter.

 

OK, last time, that baby had been BORN. The end.

You quoted Derideo-te's post (34) but didn't read it....how odd

 

No it's been justified by the left before

 

It's been justified by the laws of the state it happened in.

 

You're being ridiculous out of desperation.....whatever intentions the woman had has NOTHING to do with what someone else does....but I feel you come from the school of "everything is women's fault"...correct?

 

No, it was aborted, by definition.

If it is birth, then abortion procedures are also birth.

It's born, then it's killed.

 

No, it wasn't aborted , it was born prematurely and laws, as I said, overrule YOU reading dictionary definitions

If you think you are correct you certainly can write to the attorney general of that state and ask for a retrial because you read the dictionary....


...and you still have no point..

 

Then going to an abortion doctor is also "premature birth".

 

You argued about "want" defining the state of an unborn baby. That is ridiculous

Aldo, law has no bearing

 

Again, you are flailing around because you have no point.

You may call it anything you want ( you obviously don't even know what "abortion" means or does) , you still won't be correct or have any influence on abortion or the manslaughter charges..