Man shoots wife and pets, blames NRA

We knew this was coming.

Is this actually a form of activism, or just a last minute 'let no tragedy go to waste' kinda thing?

Did he kill his wife, dog and (according to one news site) cat because guns are too easy to get?

Do you think if he'd somehow been prevented from getting a gun, he would've been less likely to kill his wife, as he suggests in his confession tweet?

https://www.infowars.com/pure-evil-...s-own-family-to-make-point-about-gun-control/

 

I think it's undeniable that firearms make it easier to kill people. That's why they were first invented and became so prevalent after all.

I don't think we can or should try to read much in to the rantings of an apparent self-confessed murderer within hours of his crime. I also don't think the US obsession with firearms (for or against) is beneficial given all of the other combined factors which ultimately lead to such tragedies. Availability of firearms is a legitimate consideration but there are a whole load of other too which don't receive anything like enough attention.

As an aside, I'd also question your linking an obviously partisan source which is merely reporting on reports rather than linking the primary news sources directly.

 

Another INNOCENT person has DIED because the NRA INSISTED that the MENTALLY UNBALANCED must have access to lethal firearms.

So this was the inevitable RESULT of the NRA's nefarious advocacy and the IMPOTUS rolling back sane and reasonable regulations to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...it-easier-mentally-ill-get-guns-when-n1039301

Sad!

 

If he knew he was mentally unbalanced (which he obviously did, judging by his last minute Twitter tweets), why did he buy that gun in the first place?
(The state he lived in has a 10-day waiting period, so it wasn't like this was all last-minute spur of the moment)

I really think some of these people are so deranged they'll shoot people just to try to get guns banned.

In the minds of some people, they'll do anything to prove they were right.

 

Oh, and I'll bet anything and $100 he was binge-watching CNN and Rachel Maddow on that fateful day he shot up his wife/animal family.

 

Not going to attempt to understand what motivates the mentally unbalanced.

The SMART MOVE is to keep guns out of their hands.

Instead another INNOCENT PERSON has been SACRIFICED on the bloodstained high alter of the NRA's perfidy!

 

Oh yes, because we can trust Liberals to determine who's mentally unbalanced before they commit a crime.

Is there any evidence at all to show this man would have been on the no-gun list, if such a law had existed?

And do we know for certain he would not still have killed his own wife (you know, the woman he slept next to in bed with every night) if he had not had a gun?

 

None of the individuals covered by the prohibition were qualified as being mentally unbalanced.

 

Qualified Professionals make the determination as to whether or not someone is mentally unbalanced!

We had ample warning given his rantings.

Keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable would mean fewer deaths.

Obviously there is NOTHING remotely "pro-life" about the gun obsessed NRA!

 

Unsubstantiated misinformed opinion ignored for obvious reasons.

 

Even the ACLU was against the actions of Barack Obama, and sided with the NRA in its position. That in itself is quite telling.

 

Even the ACLU makes mistakes as was EVIDENT from reading their misinformed opinion on the matter.

 

What was the exact definition of "mental illness" utilized with regard to the restriction implemented by Barack Obama? Explain such.

 

I am not interested in wasting my time reposting the same things that have already been factually established in the past.

If YOU want to know then YOU can either google it for yourself or YOU can search for my prior posts on the topic in this forum.

 

Then why are you present on this forum in the first place?

The definition utilized was requesting a payee for social security benefits. Such was the sole, defining characteristic for one being listed as mentally unstable, even when having a payee had absolutely nothing to do with mental issues.

None of the individuals who were targeted were ever provided with due process, or evaluated by a mental health expert. They were simply listed automatically.

 

Once again your content is Just another massive load of BOVINE EXCREMENT without any attempt at credible substantiation because there is none for that CRAP!

 

Credible substantiation.

https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...f-the-nics-improvement-amendments-act-of-2007

 

That DEBUNKS your utterly BOGUS allegation!

https://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/12.00-MentalDisorders-Adult.htm

 

LoL Obama wanted to disarm people with HIV.

 

Clearly we could end all gun violence if Democrats weren't allowed to own firearms.

 

Don't know where you got that or who you think you are fooling- but the NRA has most certainly not insisted mentally unbalanced people have access to guns; Indeed- just the opposite.m
Our biggest barrier here is the people who insist that medical privacy laws would be violated if doctors or authorities reported people they felt posed a risk, and as a result those people are not on the lists of people the ATF blocks the sales of weapons too. If you read details on many of the multiple shooting and the like, you find repeated cases where the perp was a known danger and known to be unstable; where warning were given to multiple authorities, and nobody paid any attention. The Parkland school shooting perp, I think his name was Cruz for example. People even notified the FBI that he was promising to shoot up a school- and nobody followed up.

That is bureaucracy, indifference, incompetence- and NOT in the NRA. Members of that organization are the first to ask why attention is not focused on such people, who are statistically the most frequent shooters.
I've pushed that for years, many times right on this forum- and the response is "ho-hum...".

People who want to blame guns for what bad people do seem to have an aversion to actually blaming the shooters and the people who ignore the glaring threat they pose.
No gun is a murder weapon until a person intent on murder picks it up. The belief that being unable to find a weapon would alter his state of mind- is a pipe-dream that all common sense and logic says is false.
It is the unstable person who is the real weapon, and the element that needs to be addressed in these things.

This is a complex problem, but the prime focus of it is madly misdirected and will never resolve the issue- because we are ignoring the solutions that could actually work.

 

Two points:

-Treating the mentally ill like second class citizens by tracking them and taking their rights only serves to dissuade them from seeking treatment.

-No one should have their civil or human rights violated in the US without due process. A medical/psychological disgnosis is not due process.

 

The people that get killed by such disturbed people don't get due process either- but they do get deprived of their lives. And anti-gun laws deprive people of the right to defend themselves as well as violate the second amendment.

Weigh those things against the inconvenience of a disturbed person not being allowed to buy a gun.

People convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence or under restraining orders for domestic violence are also excluded- because of the propensity for violence.
How is is to unreasonable to take the same restrictions with a person having the same propensity as recognized by a medical professional?

Of course, it is the same thing- just not convenient for those who take the anti-gun position to admit to, because it might save lives by some other means than imposing their fantasy on everyone.
If that happened, the whole line of crap about guns, rather than murderous people being the threat, would fall apart.

 

I've always been baffled by the people who think that the lack of a handy gun would eliminate the rage and mindset of a person determined to commit murder.

 

The problem is in the defining of 'disturbed.' Its been estimated that 100% of the US population could technically be diagnosed with some psychological abnormality according to the current DSM. Without due process, we're all at the mercy of the bureaucracy regarding whether we retain our civil rights.