The AMA doesn't list it as a mental disorder. And I'm not sure how you could responsibly differentiate between those folks and folks who do body piercing, get tatoo's, smoke, play the lottery, or vote in a presidential election.
I disagree. I don't see how it makes any difference. You're welcome to label yourself as you see fit. Define yourself as a proud male Jewish Californian 49er's fan. That's your right. But why should others be responsible for providing you with stuff to support that self image? Why should someone else provide you with a big red foam finger, a more Californian tan, a more Jewish nose, or a more masculine appendage between your legs?
I was being sarcastic. Transgenderism has no influence on anything. This whole exchange started because after someone call her a "he"... I remind them she's currently a "she". So to speak. Then that whole "you are what you think you are" BS theory started. The guy was born a male. He wanted to be a woman and had surgery. He never stopped being a male. Now he has accepted that fact. You aren't what you think you are.... you are what everyone else thinks you are. In this case, a messed up suicide candidate that says he has no regrets using taxpayer money to fund his multiple sex change operations.
I have a question for you then. You broke your leg. Would you need a cast or a band-aid? Different problems require different treatments. That's what Dsyphoria does. It creates the conditions that lead to a higher suicide rate. It leads to depression, anxiety, confusion and the reasons why transgenders hate themselves. That's why being able to come to terms with their body matters so much. That's great for you. I don't care. It doesn't matter what you think.
and your last line is why you will continue to struggle. The first step is acceptance that one needs help. Living in denial, and in the case of those with sexual issues, is not a first step. This thread is about a "transgender" who was a man, got things hacked off and now wants to become a man again. All paid for by taxpayers. The guilty parties here are those who allowed his delusions to continue instead of committing him. If they guy doesn't want to admit that he has a problem, and his desire to lop off his penis clearly showed that he is a danger to himself, then "the state" must step in and protect him from himself.
The reason I don't care what you think is because you're confusing gender identity with sexual orientation. They're two different things. So for you to have an opinion on a topic, but not understand the basics of what you're saying means your opinion is invalid. That also being said, transgenders are tired of living a lie. So the first step is for them to tell the truth about who they are. Accepting who you are is the first step to any recovery. Yes that is true. A danger to oneself implies immediate harm to oneself. Chopping off a penis is not immediate. That takes a long time to do. Think about it, does everyone who has depression go to a mental hospital? His gender confusion is going to take awhile to figure out. It's not some overnight process.
A healthcare assessment is required I guess and the proper treatment should be administered, I think that is essential to optimize the process, a lot do have life threatening illness out there that also needs medical care.
Again, this is where your own personal involvement prevents you from common sense. It takes courage to stand up and tell someone that what they are doing is wrong. That's true in business, politics, life, medicine etc. The man is this story has been done a disservice by those who simply played along with his fantasy. He has not been helped at all. helping him correctly would be difficult. Frankly, it's simpler to say........"yeah, you're struggling with identity, let's lop off your jimmy" You are viewed by the left as then being "compassionate" when in reality you're not helping The suicide rate, stories like this and behavior portrayed by those with the mental imbalance clearly show those people have mental issues. It does not mean you toss away those people. On the contrary, it means you actually help them which is hard work and no scalpel can do that. I am sorry if you've been consulted to the contrary and if you feel that folks such as me, who wish to address the root of the problem, vs a band-aid (or scalpel) approach, offend you. maybe someday you will have that much needed epiphany and understand which people really want to help you. It wasn't until our family lost someone to suicide until we realized just how long and how much work is needed to help those with mental issues. We can't give up on those who most need our help and honestly, letting them use any bathroom, or lopping off a penis is doing just that, giving up on them but allowing some to say "see how magnanimous we are" No sir, mental illnesses including claiming to be "transgender" or "homosexual" requires patience and a lot of love to actually help treat the people. (homosexual suicide rate 3x hetero so thus a mental issue too)
a simple wave of the hand would agree with that perspective. If he really wants a putmydickbackonme surgery then I agree, he should pay for it himself. But, he is on welfare claiming mental issues as his disability. That right there should be the red flag that no cosmetic surgery or encouraging his fantasy will cure him. He/she has a deep rooted mental issue which needs to be treated. Some folks have no remorse and feel justified in killing or injuring people. We evaluate and try to treat them hoping they won't hurt others. In this case, he/she is only physically harming himself however is a financial drag upon the taxpayers. He/she also requires evaluation and treatment and not another surgery.
Like how I'm telling you you don't understand the basics of what you're saying? Transgenders doesn't mean transsexual. There's a lot of other identities that fall under the branch of transgenderism. Coming from the person who believes transgenders need to go to mental hospitals in order to learn to keep lying. Hence why it's not just lobbying off a penis. It's a very long process that takes years and involves all sorts of therapy to make transistion possible. I'm more worried about the fact that you think telling lies is a good form of therapy. It's not. It ends up causing more pain then it cures. Yeah when I hear stuff like this it usually means you don't have anything more to argue. I already have. And technically I am even now. Your bias blinds your judgment. You claim you want to help them, but you're not helping. You're causing the fear that makes people keep lying about who you are. That fear you create, telling people you know better then them, is not helpful. It's a detriment. And yet here we are again. You not understanding the basics of what you're trying to say. Suicide is a symptom of the problem, not the root. If you want to help someone with suicide, the ultimate goal is to get them to learn to live with themselves as who they are. If someone says they're good at math, then you promote their attempts at math. Gender identity is no different. If someone thinks they're a girl, then let them try it. Let them see how they feel when they identify and are identifed as a girl.
It's probably frozen, and would make an awkward signature, but I'm sure you can use it however you wish.
geez louise no kidding suicide is a symptom and not the cause. Who the frik said otherwise people who have mental issues take their own lives. But, we see that those who claim to be "transgender" have a 41% suicide/attempted suicide rate no lopping off of penis will fix that and as is evident by your posts, you don't want to hear the cold hard truth. You want to be comforted and told that we will embrace your "gender identity" Bullcrap, in the end, you'll still fall into that 41% which is not a good thing. The goal is for you to understand that the equipment you have is what you are. If you refuse to accept that, then we need to help you understand why you think otherwise.
The Spartans would have just tossed him off of a cliff. The Greeks weren't much better... Aristotle "Let there be a law that no deformed child shall live."
Because there is nothing else to do. You have to accept who you are. Anatomy is irrelevant because it's not about what you have, but what you identify with. Because you keep believing in the stuff that cases the suicide in the first place. If you're saying that you have to use "equipment" to base judgment, then wouldn't we also have to acknowledge the fact that there is a biological origin to it as well, thus his "equipment" is in fact causing this.
of course there is a biological cause. In the case of the OP, "it" started with penis and thus is a man no matter how many times "it" has it lopped off and re-attached. Are you really trying to assert that the person from the article does not have a mental disorder? Are you also stating that letting him continue to have the taxpayers pay for adding and removing a penis is the best way to treat this person? Heck, even if this person paid for it themselves do you think the surgeries are the cure?
Once Obamacare has complete control, the cost will be put on the taxpayer because it's some kind of disability or what not.
It did start biologically. His penis had nothing to do with it. http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012...onger-a-mental-disorder-in-diagnostic-manual/ http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx#
Has he coerced others or indicated an intent to do so? So why force him into "treatment", almost certainly paid for by the public purse? Tell him to (*)(*)(*)(*) off and pay for his own (*)(*)(*)(*). Seems to suffice.
