Manchester bomber identified: Geoffrey James Smith, white Anglo Saxon Protestant.

I did answer, you didn't. I don't defend ISIS, I do defend innocent Muslims. Now try to defend the self proclaimed christian that stabbed two men to death on a train in Oregon two days ago. You're obviously proud of your white supremacist bigotry.

Two men stabbed to death on Oregon train trying to stop anti-Muslim rant
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-muslims-portland-idUSKBN18N080

 

Whatever word you wish to use or make up, it's still terrorism by every definition in any dictionary.
Deflecting is a great way for those without an argument to try to derail something but the basic fact remains; The US government can't complain about terrorism because it has committed a lot of major attacks all over the world.

 

Salmin Abedai.

 

Terror is a perfectly legitimate tactic in war and always has been because properly used it brings quicker end to the war with smaller loss of human life. Asymetrical warfare can be part of an over all campaign to bring about the end of a war. However when it is essentially the only tactic one side uses it becomes illegitimate because the purpose then is to prolong the state of war until the other side gives up and goes home or even worse in the case of ISIS and Al Qaeda until the other side converts to your religion.and puts you in power.

War sir is the most singularly amoral undertaking in which human beings ever engage. The only immorality in war is to needlessly prolong it through half measures.

 

The United States Department of Defense defines terrorism as "the calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological."

 

So you claim 9/11 was justified?

 

NO I am telling you why it wasn't but you can't seem to get your head out of your back side long enough to figure it out.

 

Don't be taken in by the fake news.

 

It's either justified (as you claim) or it is not.
If it is (as you claim), 9/11 was a perfectly reasonable strike.

or do you mean terrorism is acceptable when committed by someone you support?

 

Great. Let's see if the Muslim community comes forward to recognize their liberal hero's and thank them for their selfless sacrifice.

 

The FBI is now investigating the Oregon train shooting as a hate crime...how much investigating will that take?

There are 50,000 Muslims in Portland Oregon....guess how many Muslim terrorist attacks Portland has had......try to find one.....

 

Not justified, but after a hundred years of U.S. meddling in the Muslim world...breaking treaties, stealing Palestinian land, selling chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein, and missiles to Iran during the Iran/Iraq war....it was bound to happen.
Call it Karma for capitalistic greed, or Karma for the genocide of the Native Americans. "You shall reap what you sow."
But of course a lot of Americans think they can get away with anything...like Trump.

 

But you are bringing in FACTS!
Facts don't fit the Muslim ban.
Facts don't feed the "be very afraid" hype the con-man depends on.
In either case - home-grown or Muslim terrorists - MORE military waste won't help in either case, but logic is not an attribute of the Trump fan...and facts are forbidden.

 

By that definition, the Democrats have been guilty of terrorist acts all over the USA since Trump won the election.

 

Well first, it was a stabbing, not a shooting. Second, he didn't kill the Muslims - he was merely harassing them. The two men that he murdered in cold blood with his knife were white just like him. I'm not sure how you could call that a hate crime, unless self-loathing now counts. The question we should be asking... the question nobody is asking... is what is this multiple felon and Bernie Sanders supporter even doing roamong our streets?

 

A quote from an Iraqi on Facebook translated using google (so not quite accurate) and some of its meaning lost in translation.

This post has had over 10,000 reactions of sadness or love so far from Iraqis or other Arabic speakers

 

Sure there is.

Let me know when they put something in english.

In your own quote is the reason it won't happen.

Just two useful liberal infidels in their eyes, just like the rest of them.

 

So then according to your logic Christians have every right to murder abortion doctors??? What I mean sir is that terror is a normal consequence of warfare as conducted in any century you care to name. In fact several different sources have characterized war as long periods of boredom, interspersed with short periods of stark terror. But what the Jihadis are doing is fighting a war that they started, that they cannot win in the faint hope that if they kill enough women and children that the men will surrender their freedom of religious choice in order to stop it. If you wish to call that moral and justified your moral compass is not only broken it has been discarded.

 

My definition says terrorism against unarmed civilians is not acceptable at all.
I believe it was you who said it was fine.
I'm sure I can dig out the post if you wish to dispute you said it was acceptable.

So, you're saying 9/11 was legitimate?

 

Arh, did that post go against your agenda ...........

And what is ironic is you are just like the "sheikh racist" that the Facebook poster was attacking

 

Hell of a damn stretch there, We try to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties these days, ISIS and Al Qaeda's primary tactics are to maximize civilian casualties. That is the nature of asymmetrical warfare as used by the people we currently call terrorists. We are trying to shorten this war they do everything they can to prolong it.

 

Using a missile that is capable of bringing down a multi-floored building in order to kill one person on a roof while knowing that the building has many civilians on the lower floors is not really trying to avoid civilian casualties.

 

And if that one person is about to take the life of still others and place still others in jeopardy?

 

You use a smaller weapon, not a 500lb missile that kills 200 civilians that were told by the attacking forces to shelter in basements, the same people that you were supposed to be liberating

 

You said terrorism was an acceptable means of war.
That in mind, was 9/11 justified or not?

A yes or no answer would be fine - if you have the guts to answer.