Mapping Corruption: The Interactive Exhibit (on Trump's WH)

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry you don't like the truth.

    You asked a question, I answered it.
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'll file that one in the 'distinction without significance' file. Trump was a popular figure during his TV years, and, as such, wields 'power' as an opinion leader.. In fact, it was the popularity of that TV show which gave him the name recognition sufficient that he was able to convert that name recognition into a large voting block.

    Therefore, that fact that Biden voted for the war the can easily be said of Trump, that if Trump were in Congress he would have voted for the war, as well. In short, you can't raise that objection about Biden without raising it against Trump.

    Your grasping at straws, is noted.
     
  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, I guess if they didn't ignore his tan suit, they would have ignored if he shtupped a porn star.

    Now there's logic for you.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nothing to do with Trump? Are you kidding? Trump was named as 'individual 1' in the Cohen indictment, that Cohen's crime (the hush money) was done at the behest of 'individual 1'.. This fact was not disputed by the prosecution, nor did Trump's lawyers file an amicus brief disputing that fact.
     
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    You can’t see the difference between a senator in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and a know nothing reality tv personality?

    Wow, that was dumb.
     
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    I'm sorry you don't like the truth.
     
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    “Acting ‘corruptly" means acting with an improper purpose and to engage in conduct knowingly and dishonestly with the specific intent to subvert, impede or obstruct the relevant proceeding

    As an initial matter, the term “corruptly” sets a demanding standard. It requires a concrete showing that a person acted with an intent to obtain an “improper advantage for [him]self or someone else, inconsistent with official duty and the rights of others.

    Please, demonstrate the corruption you claim.
    Note the use of the word "demonstrate" - your opinions, suppositions, prejudices, and fallacies need not apply.
     
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    They ignored Clinton's sexual assaults they would have cheerfully ignored sexual pecadillos on Obama's part.
     
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    He went to jail for the taxi medallion scam. The other thing hasn't even been fully ajudicated yet and may well never be. Hell it's not even clear that any laws were broken.
     
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    "Embattled Sen. Kelly Loeffler’s (R-GA) husband made his largest-ever federal political contribution last month with a seven-figure donation to a super PAC supporting President Donald Trump's re-election, according to Federal Election Commission records released on Wednesday. A filing from the pro-Trump group America First Action shows that Jeff Sprecher, the chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, donated $1 million to the group in late April, as Loeffler sought to beat back allegations of insider trading after she and Sprecher unloaded millions of dollars in stock in the wake of a closed-door Senate briefing on the novel coronavirus."
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    Kelly Loeffler’s Husband Pours $1 Million Into Pro-Trump Super PAC
    A filing from the pro-Trump group America First Action shows that Jeff Sprecher, the chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, donated $1 million to the group in late April.
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    I'm sure the $1M contribution to Trump's PAC had nothing to do with the investigation being dropped. Just like I'm sure Burr's committee's reports in support of the intel community's findings that Russia helped Trump has nothing to do with the investigation in to him not being dropped.
     
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    There are gob smacking examples of such things at least every week, if not every day.

    "According to public reports, Atkinson was effectively removed from his position prior to the completion of the notice period. And in Trump’s letter informing Congress of his reasoning, he stated only that he had lost confidence in Atkinson. The bipartisan letter responds:
    Congressional intent is clear that an expression of lost confidence, without further explanation, is not sufficient to fulfill the requirements of the statute. This is in large part because Congress intended that inspectors general only be removed when there is clear evidence of wrongdoing or failure to perform the duties of the office, and not for reasons unrelated to their performance, to help preserve IG independence."
    How to Legally—and Illegally—Fire Inspectors General

    What happened when Obama fired an IG?

    "It (saying confidence in the IG was lost) is also the precise reason and language that President Barack Obama used in 2009 when he fired Gerald Walpin as inspector general of the Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS), though the Obama White House within a week after the termination provided detailed reasons for the firing."
    Legal Issues Implicated By Trump’s Firing of the State Department Inspector General

    "In fact, Congress so closely guarded the independence of inspectors general that a move by Obama to abruptly oust the AmeriCorps IG in 2009 prompted a five-month investigation by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and then-Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) that resulted in a 62-page report sharply criticizing the decision."
    Trump's drive against watchdogs faces constitutional reckoning

    Obama removed one IG, explained why in detail, and was investigated for 5 months.

    Trump fires 4 IG's for clear reasons of retribution and refuses to explain why (so far).

    Is this really what Trump fans voted for? A prez who regards himself to be accountable to no one.
     

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