Marijuana should be illegal !!!

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree and disagree with OP. It only makes people dumb if they do it all the time. IMO its intended to be used like booze (a couple times a week) but most people that do it are doing it daily. It might not kill people but you know what it does? It does suck away your motivation if you do it often. Someone will opt for that joint and netflix over planning their next major business operation, thats how the drug works. Unless you are an artist or something, then it might make you work better, lol. Weed is the least bit of our problems nowawdays. If people want to waste away, let them! As for me, I'll just continue to treat it like a fine scotch that you bust out every once in a while.
     
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    If private citizens devoting their private resources to things that might dumb them down were illegal, alcohol would be illegal and you'd be advocating for the government to outlaw any information source that you think is misleading. Either you are ready to make that step or you agree with me that marijuana should be legal . . . or you are being hypocritical in your standards.
     
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    Oh Woooooow! How coooool! Forty years of unicorns!
     
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  4. James California

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    ~ If someone is addicted it is very hard. As a member of Sober Society I am often "picked" as chauffeur. I don't mind because I feel it's necessary. I always have a little caffeine so I am extra sharp. ( I have been allowed to drive some really nice vehicles :aww: )
     
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    Funny part about it is, many are addicted to marijuana. There is no AA or Sober Society for them. They are self promoters!
     
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    Marijuana is far less addictive than most substances, and anyone who is addicted is free to join NA . . . which, yes, is the "AA . . . for them."
     
  7. James California

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    ~ Ah ha - sounds like the 1970's. Acapulco Gold ; India Red ; California Green ... Stuff back then was relatively mild in comparison.
    CBD is indeed useful - but very difficult to find. Most products have little actual CBD content. People are getting gypped.
     
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    Fantastic! The reformed former dealer and grower. You have clearly not read enough posts in this thread. There are at least half a dozen members that have explicitly stated they don’t use the stuff but oppose the government making it illegal based on their own fundamental political ideology. We have the highest per capita prison population on earth and a lot of it is because we put folks in jail for consuming plants. And your opinion of marijuana’s lack of value is completely decoupled from my experience as well as the experience of millions of other Americans.
     
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    ~ There are indeed AA groups for cannibis addiction. So far psychological assessment concludes there is no physical components to cannibis addiction - only psychological. However recent brain scan studies of long term habitual users do show some evidence of repressed brain function.
    :arrow: My own personal opinion is alcohol and amphetamines are the worst recreational drugs that do more harm to the user and society. I do fear that in time marijuana will catch up in harm to the user - but not so much to society in general .
     
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    As it’s already being used it’s not about promoting its use. It makes no sense for something that is less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes to be illegal.
     
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    ~ Anything that you smoke ( inhale ) is very detrimental to your health. If people use cannibis they should consume it by lozenge or edibles . If someone must inhale it for medical reasons vaporized is likely safer.
     
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    I wonder if smoking marihuana prevents me from falling for propaganda. But then it may just be the result of superior intelligence. After all I had been actively questioning the veracity of Christianity for at least a decade before I ever tried pot. It has something to do why I don't see the anti fascists as conservatives do, why I don't fall for right wing BS. Notice that the violence that y'all claimed was caused by antiFa. That it all stopped once the police and FBI started arresting members of violent right wing gangs. Yet y'all think it is fake news.

    And again, back to that superior intelligence and all. Marihuana is a Mexican, or Latin American Spanish, word. The beauty of Mexican is that things can only be pronounced one way. They don't have vowels with half a dozen pronunciations, like English does. Each vowel always has the same sound, except when modified. The letter H is never pronounced, but it modifies the vowel that follows, in this case the U. Thus the "wa" sound in the middle of the word marihuana comes from the silent h modifying the u. The j would give it a different pronunciation.

    When the US first made marihuana illegal, they spelled it as I do. Look it up. The j really didn't come up until the 60's, when the counter culture purposely changed the spelling to confuse law enforcement.
     
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    Without marihuana and other drugs, music would be quite a bit different. If you take the drug users out of Rock n Roll, all you have left is Gene Simpson and Ted Nugent. And how annoyingly boring that would be.

    Shortly after he was introduced to marihuana: Paul McCartney wrote the song, Got to Get You Into My Life.

    In his later years, Ray Charles claimed that all of hits were created while high on something or another.
     
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    I used to really enjoy Pscilo DSCN0300.JPG cybe Cubensis, here is a drawing, in color pencil and ink, I did in 2007. I think i did an accurate rendition of the species. I have a fat boy roach, of some goody good. Think I'll fire it up, in honor of this thread!
     
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    I am sure that dementia is not one of my problems. Don't know about the mental maturity, but I do tend to date women who are noticably younger than me. I once watched a clip of George Burns, where he was well into his 90's, with a young lady hanging on each arm. He was asked for his secret to a long life. He mentioned something about hanging out with young women.

    However, I have noticed that many conservatives seem to have deluded themselves into thinking that the conservative position is arrived at through maturity with the wisdom of age. Yet that is not what I see. When a conservative starts questioning my maturity, I think he/she/it is just demonstrating his/her/its delusions, their programming.
     
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    Don't forget Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.
     
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    While I don't like to discuss other Posters, I have not followed @ImNotOliver as closely as you have so you would know better than I about his/her writings.

    I only suspect that there were other factors than cannabis that caused your friend, Tom, to die as a recluse with dementia. In other words, I don't think that Tom's life was ruined only because he was smoking cannabis. His abuse of that or any number of substances, legal or illegal, was simply a symptom of a deeper unhappiness caused by any number of things.

    Additionally, I don't doubt that any foreign substance that is introduced into your bloodstream is bound to have an effect on brain's chemical makeup. The severity of that effect is, of course, dependent on the nature, duration and amount of the substance as well as the genetic make up of the individual.

    In keeping with the spirit of his thread, it is simply my opinion that the severity of America's cannabis laws are disproportionately harsh for the social harm it does.
     
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    I don't remember any attempts at "Drug Ed." via multimedia presentations or lectures in Middle or High School (1960s). I do remember that any attempts by authority to change anyone's mind would have fallen on deaf ears as those who smoked pot continued to do so and those who didn't were rarely converted.
    I don't doubt that if there had been any attempts to scare my classmates from "evil" cannabis, the result would have probably been the same:
    "Cool, where can I get some?"
     
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    I agree..... the cbd supplier I go to has an actual lab that tests. They also test all other brands and compare cbd content. Am I being taken?
     
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    Incidently.....my friend Tom was from a stable middle class family with four siblings. The difference was, his life centered around the
    marijuana consumption and sales trade to the very end. He went from owning a successful nursery to delivering pizzas at 62. His brother and sisters are an excellant control study. Friends would inquire about him but he would neglect to answer. Was found dead in his home by a sheriff's deputy in his arm chair with an ample supply of pot. You can believe what you want to.
     
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    Your advertising that it is less harmful than cigarettes or alcohol is ludicrous and a prime example of you promoting it's use. Saying it is less evil than other vices shows your promotion and endorsement.
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    How many people have died from pot related illnesses? How many people have been killed due to pot related impaired driving?
     
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    Something for you to look at the stars and ponder....Oliver, is why do Mexicans still spell the name for "John" Juan and not Huan? Here is another example of your pot induced thinking.
     
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    Dementia is impossible to identify when you live in another world.
     
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    Perhaps. I just believe that the culture should shun it's promotion. That is all I do and am attacked for it. That's o.k. though. I will take my stand.
     

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