Marines nekid pics scandal

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    This incident shows that female Marines can't be trusted. They do something stupid like taking selfies of themselves in the nude and give it to their boyfriends and eventually it makes it on the internet then the girl goes snowflake liberal and runs to Gloria Alred.

    The photos in question on "Marines United" Facebook was removed six days ago.

    But they were moved to another site and I checked them out. Everyone appears that they are posing for who ever took the photos. Many are definitely selfies. Most seem to have been taken on base or in their dorm rooms.

    There were more than a few female Marines in uniform or partially in uniform posing while exposing their tits or *****. Now that's violation of the UCMJ.

    Never heard or seen any male Marines ever exposing his johnson while be photographed. But with todays PC military and allowing service members to dress in drag while on base...who knows ?

    One photo showed a female Marine giving her squad leader a BJ so that's why I can't post the URL to the website where you can view the photos that has the PC left going on a witch hunt. But doing a little poop and snooping you can find it.

    Female Marines consent to going nude and being photographed. But they go running to a liberal lawyer (Gloria Alread) when the photo they consented being taken finds itself on social media.

    And what are the liberal Senators calling for in Congress ? The court-martial of the Marines who posted the photos on social media.

    FYI: Some of the photos seem to have been posted by the naked female Marines.
     
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    It shows MALE Marines can't be trusted, by nice attempt at misogynistic victim-blaming. Using you as an example of a male Marine, no wonder these pieces of **** betrayed the confidence of their comrades in arms.

    None of these female Marines consented to their photos to be shared beyond the people they gave them to.

    If you gave your SSN to someone for an agreed purpose and then you found out they were sharing that personal private information with others without your consent, would your outrage be "PC"?
     
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    You don't know that, you're making **** up.

    Some of the photos seem to have been put up on the internet by the women themselves.

    It's a millennial thing I suppose. What's with todays younger generation always taking selfies ?

    If you don't want a naked picture of yourself ending up on the internet, don't take a picture of yourself in the nude.
     
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    Just like if you don't want to have your identity stolen, never give out your SSN to anyone, even if its for a legitimate purpose. If your identity gets stolen, you only have yourself to blame right? And then any outrage you feel is just you being politically correct, right?
     
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    So what's the root of the cause that we are seeing in todays PC military ?

    It's obvious PC liberal social engineering of our military services.

    It seems things really crossed the line when President Obama put Valerie Jarrett in charge of the social engineering of the military to change the customs, traditions, history and mission of the U.S. military in the name of political correctness and diversity.

    When did the posting of naked female Marines began ?

    On Obama's watch.

    The Rise And Fall (And Rise) Of ‘Marines United’ -> http://taskandpurpose.com/rise-fall...e&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=marinesunited
     
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    ******n Obama. Why did he have to invent smartphones and social media!?!
     
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    I seem to remember when Obama visited Iraq in 2009 and they handed out free Obama digital cameras to the troops so they could take nudie pictures of themselves and of naked female soldiers.

    Obama's Photo-Op With Troops in Iraq was Staged

    Obama's Photo-Op With Troops in Iraq was Staged With Pre-Screened Soldiers and FREE CAMERAS! ->


    Read more at
     
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    This isn't Obama's fault nor the Marine Commanders fault or anybody elses fault but those who were involved.

    The military is no different than any other "group" of people. For some reason society seems to think that the military is better than the general public, better disciplined, have higher moral standing, etc. That's just simply not the case. Most of the people in the military are college aged kids, that's the bulk of the force. Just because a kid puts on a military uniform doesn't mean he isn't a 21 year old anymore who does 21 year old kid things. Sure the military is more disciplined in some aspects but take away military haircut standards and you wouldn't be able to tell a kid in the Marines from a college kid partying at Syracuse.

    The internet has been doing this thing ever since the internet was first invented. There's millions of explicit photos and videos of people online right now without their permission. The only reason people freaked out about this particular case is because the military did it, and the military is supposed to be "better" than that...Nope.

    The media and society can freak out all they want about this but it's not gonna change anything. The second this story broke there were thousands of people archiving all these pictures and videos and creating new secret sites and reuploading all this stuff. Just read the articles, even the news knows that. Shut down one and they put up another one. That's how the internet works. They aren't going to stop doing this, they will just keep moving around.

    This is the age of the internet. Do not take pictures of yourself that you don't want the internet to see. Thats basically the only solution. It's not fair but thats the real world.
     
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    Actually the investigation has expanded to include photos/videos of males that are showing up on gay porn sites----although that part seems to be focusing on punishing the men for their choices, not painting them as victims for their choices as it is doing with women.
     
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    What did they think was going to happen after repealing DADT ?
     
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    It is not isolated to the military. The times they are a changing. That said, depending on who you work for, what you are willing to do, and how often you are willing to do it, you can still supplement your income between $30K and $60K a year with some regular gay porning, so I can see that income being attractive to people in the lower E's, especially if they have a baby momma and some babies to tend to.
     
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    That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Just because it's "military culture" doesn't mean being it isn't wrong. Sounds like you served with some pretty messed up people who can't control their sexual urges. We really need to hold our soldiers to a higher standard.
     
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    Yeah those pictures you posted were pretty messed up and their should have been repercussions at the time.

    You obviously have a genuine problem if you think it's bad that women who want to serve alongside men should be treated with respect. It isn't "PC social engineering" it's human decency. If people can't do their job without acting like sex crazed animals (which includes the hazing) then they belong in prison, not the armed forces.
     
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    Serving in the military isn't a right.

    It's not even a job but some think it's a 9 to 5 job.

    It's duty and honor to country. The military is about customs, traditions and unit history.

    The PC liberals want to use social engineering to change the tradition, customs, and use revisionist history and even change the mission of the military in the name of political correctness.There's a reason why soldiers wear funny looking uniforms that liberals like to point at and make fun of.

    It's serious deadly business serving in the military even during peace time.

    During Ronald Reagan's first year as CnC (1981) 2,380 soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen were killed or died on active duty. What war was America fighting in 1981 ?

    In 2007, the year with the highest casualty rates during the Iraq war, 1,953 American troops were killed or died while on active duty.

    The liberal social engineering snowflakes say that the face of the U.S. military should look like the face of America. What that results in is the military having the same problems that America has on the streets, rape, murder, theft, drug abuse, buggery, seeking out safe spaces because they were offended or got their feelings hurt...

    Valerie Jarrett said that diversity in the military makes the military stronger :roll: Is there any response needed for such a stupid comment ?

    In 2009 a community organizer in the White House was disturbed that there weren't that many minority officers serving in the military. Obama's response was to lower the academic requirements for all minority anmd female officer candidates.

    During the Vietnam War you had "McNamar's Moron Corps" (Project 100,000 ) social engineering experiment.
    Today you have "Obama's Moron Officers Corps" where soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen are second guessing the orders from a minority officer. "Is this an Obama affirmative action moron officer who is lacking in the brain housing group and could get me killed in the name of diversity" ?

    A few years ago Obama's Secretary of Navy, Ray Mabus (considered the worse Sec. of the Navy in the U.S. Navy's history) basically said that the U.S. Navy was no longer in the war fighting business but is in the social engineering business fighting sexual harassment." Yes he said that.

    The U.S. Army War College has looked at all of the wars fought during the past 2,000 years. Who makes the best warriors who prevail on the battlefield was the question ?

    The U.S. Army War College has it broken down by race, ethnicity, gender, age, intelligence and education achievement.

    With the changing demographics in America today, the United States has a national security problem.
     
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    I never said it was a right, for obvious reasons there needs to be qualifications. What is a right is the expectation that everyone be treated with dignity in their line of work. It may not be a 9 to 5 stint in the office, but it is still a job and the military even advertises itself as such.

    If soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen are disobeying orders because their superior is a minority then they need to be thrown out ASAP. That isn't anyone's fault but there's for putting bigotry over, as you said, their duty. Same goes for sexual harassment; if a soldier can't be trusted to keep it in his pants then how can we trust him to be responsible for people's lives?

    There is no national security issue because our bloated military is largely offensive. You can rant all you want about how you want the military to be an all-white macho circle jerk, but that isn't the world we live in anymore. A modern organization is always going to have (gasp!) women and minorities.
     
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    The Army also use to advertise "Army of One." :roflol:

    As Gen. Neller testified, the Marine Corps is still looking for where a crime was committed under the UCMJ. So far the only thing that can be used is "CATCH-22" Article 134. If you have ever served in the U.S. Military from 1947 too today you know what CATCH-22 is.

    Personally I wouldn't have any problem if the Navy and Marine Corps dumped the UCMJ and went back to "Rocks & Shoals." -> https://www.history.navy.mil/resear...icles-government-united-states-navy-1930.html

    Bloated and unable to deploy and fight.

    Actually the U.S. military isn't bloated but are in the worse shape since 1938 and the Navy is at it's smallest size in 101 years.

    Last week Marine Corps fighter/attack squadron VMFA-232 deployed to Japan with 10 FA-18-C's. Where are the other eight FA-18C's, there are suppose to be 18 FA-18's flying in VMFA 232 ???

    Well four crashed with in the past couple of years, basically fell out of the sky because the lack of money for maintenance and spare parts causing the death of three pilots and the other four FA-18's can't fly because they are being cannibalized for spare parts to keep the other ten FA-18's flying.

    Why even deploy VMFA 232 to Japan for a six month deployment ?

    After the War of 1812 it was decided that from then on we would send the Navy, Marines and Army abroad to exotic, distant lands and meet exciting, unusual people and fight our wars thousands of miles away from the CONUS. It allows millions of American civilians to live and not to experience what war is really like.

    The Europeans should try it some time.
     
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    So it doesn't matter if the people who are actually IN CHARGE of the military say it's a job just because you don't like their advertising?



    I have no idea what you're talking about. All I said was that if you can't take orders from a minority or stop obsessively sexualizing your female colleagues then you have no business being responsible for people's lives.


    What the hell are you talking about? The Europeans have had wars on their continent because their enemies were other Europeans. I doubt spending all their money to gun down people in the Middle East would have prevented World War II. Please explain how interfering with other nations has prevented a war from taking place on our soil, I'm genuinely curious.
     
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    While I agree with you the bottom line is that nothing will change. I hate to be harsh here but the truth of the matter is that in this case yes "boys will be boys" and there is no real changing that.

    The US Army has tried VERY HARD to do something about that line of thinking and it has simply failed. It is a statistical fact that Army sexual harassment assault response prevention (SHARP) is a 100% failure. The Army has poured millions of dollars into education, we are forced to attend monthly classes, hear speeches, do surveys, etc all part of the standard military training curriculum. It's been going on for many years now and the result has literally been a ZERO percent decrease in the amount of sexual harassment/assault cases since this new education program was implemented years ago.

    You aren't going to fix this. This is me being a realist here, not taking a side, not saying what is right or wrong, but simply standing outside of the box and stating the facts.

    The military is comprised mostly of college aged males. No amount of military discipline and training is going to change the fact that these are college aged males. Introducing females into that environment is going to result in this sort of thing. It just will. Is it right? Absolutely not. Women should be able to simply serve their country equally alongside their male counterparts without being subjected to any sort of mistreatment or disrespect. But in the real world that is simply not happening. Sure, in front of the female troops the men tend to be respectful. Partly because they'll get in trouble if they don't and partly because it's the right thing to do. But out of earshot the respect goes straight out of the window.

    That is the reality of the situation. Big military can go after these people, they can throw money at the problem, they can give classes, give speeches, threaten, punish, etc. The FACT of the matter is that none of that changes anything. It will continue as long as men and women and serving together. This naked pic scandal isn't the only one out there. I 100% guarantee it, this is just the one they caught. This is also the internet and every single one of those pictures or videos are still on the internet somewhere. Just like that huge celebrity nude picture dump that happened years ago. All the lawyers went after whatever they could trying desperately to get the websites shut down and catch the people who did it. Yup, the websites got shut down and more popped up, the pictures got deleted and kept reappearing every day and are still out there right now. Some of the people who originally leaked those pictures got caught and put in jail, yet it stopped NOTHING. To this day people are still dumping hacked pictures of celebrities on the internet in spite of the fact that doing so is highly illegal and subject to prison. Yet it continues.

    You simply can't stop the internet. I feel bad for the women who were exploited in such a manner. But the sad REALITY is that there is absolutely nothing anybody can do to stop this sort of thing. That is the world we live in right now unfortunately.
     
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    I had to have a discussion with these two 19 year olds and the dangers of "snap chatting" their private parts to females. I couldn't believe I had to have a conversation with them, but these kids grew up poor, lacked a good education, and was their first time owning a phone.
     
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    I've been telling this to people for years and to be honest I'm actually surprised that this sort of thing is even possible anymore. I'm surprised that people still haven't figured out that they probably shouldn't take naked pictures of themselves and send them to their friends. I'm even more surprised that the celebrity thing is still happening. It's like did you guys miss the huge celebrity picture dump a few years ago...You would think that after seeing that on the internet people would have brightened up by now but I guess not.

    Oh well keep beating a dead horse I suppose. Do not take pictures of yourself that you wouldn't want uploaded on the internet...

    I get it though, a lot of these kids are young, first time away from home, fall for the first person that gives them some attention and think they will live happily ever after at 18 or 19 years old. So they do what kids that age do, get naughty with each other, send pictures, take videos, etc. Then more often than not they don't live happily ever after and their ex of course doesn't delete the pictures from their phone and some decide it would be nice to share those intimate pictures with others. Or somebody in the unit is bad enough to where they will swipe your phone and take the pics off of it, or nerdy enough to where they can hack your phone or your cloud storage and get them.

    Best prevention? Just don't take pictures like that. It sucks yeah but in the age of basement nerds who can hack the Pentagon you probably don't want to have anything on any sort of digital media device that you wouldn't want the internet to see unless you can encrypt it.
     
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    Yea I mean that should go without saying. If I were foxin with some chick and she asked me to send her a pic of me without clothes, my first thought would be "Hmmm. What if we break up one day and she still has this picture". Let alone someone being able to hack it.
     
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    Well therein lies the problem. You are obviously older now and you have common sense because of that. When people are younger they tend to lack common sense in some aspects. They don't think about "breaking up one day" because everybody has dreams of living happily ever after even though statistics are stacked against them they always believe "they" will be the exception.

    There's a reason why women in their 30s and above tend to be a lot more, how do you say, cautious? Once you get that age you usually run out of time for BS, you are more mature and you don't play as many games anymore. Once you reach about 30 people tend to finally figure out that people in general are not very nice. They've run the gauntlet of BS in their teens and 20s and figured out the harsh reality that a lot of people are just *******s. This is life, and the military is no different which is why I can almost guarantee that the majority of these leaked photos are from women in their teens or 20s. Not to sound rude but the reality is that at that age you are still relatively ignorant of how life really is. So you tend to make irrational decisions like send naked pics to people you met last week.

    How do I know this? Because for one I used to be a SHARP rep (that job sucks) and two I'm in the military, as are you. I'm sure you've seen the same thing I have and it blows my mind at my current age how people can be so careless. But then I remember that I'm looking at this through my current eyes and not the eyes of a 19 year old that I was many years ago.

    I don't know how to word this is a "nice" way so I won't even try. Bottom line is simple, in the military, especially branches like the Army and Marines a woman doesn't even have to be attractive to be attractive. The guys gawk at them just because they are there. The same woman as a civilian walking around the mall wouldn't get a second glance but has an army of privates whispering about her when she walks down the hallway at work. Why? Because shes there. Is it right? No, is it fair? No, do I condone it? No. Is it REALITY? Absolutely. It goes on at my job every day I see it and hear it all the time. It's almost comical the way a lot of these lower enlisted kids trip over themselves for these girls.

    Here's the kicker, these girls KNOW THAT. How do I know they know that? Because I used to be a SHARP rep, and I have a few good female friends who explained it to me very thoroughly. They know half the guys stare at them and talk about them, to her she simply said it's a part of life being one of the few chicks in the Army. She just brushes it off and goes about her day. I actually felt pretty bad for her having to endure that at work every day but she told me it didn't really bother her....but I know deep down it probably does.

    Hell not too long ago I was in a situation that literally freaked me out. I have a female friend that works with me, I'm single, shes single, and we're about the same age. Her and I became pretty close friends who hung out often and went to lunch and stuff. Well of course you know how people are, if a single guy and a single girl ever hang out as friends then they are sleeping together by default in the eyes of "the boys". So us going to lunch every day quickly evolved into smirks from my buddies and random off comments about us having quickies in the parking lot during lunch or something. Then, since "boys will be boys" they started just openly ribbing me about it on a daily basis not even trying to be subtle about it anymore. I freaked out!

    I freaked out not because I particularly cared what the boys thought but mainly because I was terrified that she would here these idiots and think I was the one spreading all these rumors bragging to my buddies or something. I ran around for weeks trying to extinguish the fire these idiots set and I even begged them to please shut the hell up before she hears you idiots. But you know how the boys are, the more you get stressed out the funnier it is to them and the more harsh they become because they are *******s. So eventually I had to confront her about it, I had no choice, I had to bring it up to her so that she was at least aware of the situation and I could let her know that it wasn't me who was doing this, we just have ******* coworkers.

    What was her response? "lol I know dude I hear them all the time, it's ok I'm used to that sort of thing it happens in every unit I've ever been to it doesn't bother me". That was it, she wasn't mad, she wasn't upset, she wasn't sad, she just said "meh". Why? Because sadly she is USED to that and he KNOWS that's how people just are.

    So what was the point of that whole story? If women in the military KNOW that a lot of the guys around them are gawking at them and talking and whispering in the hallways then you would think that they would also know that sending ANYBODY in the unit naked pictures of yourself is probably NOT a very good idea. Did my friend send anybody naked pics of herself? No, because shes in her 30s and she is mature enough to know that's probably stupid. The 19 year old private who worked down the hall isn't mature enough yet to understand that, which is sadly why back when I was a SHARP rep she walked into my office to report the fact that 80% of her coworkers now have explicit pictures of her that she sent to her "boyfriend" the week prior.

    In my mind I just sat back and rolled my eyes and sat there wondering how the hell anybody could be so....careless.
    Rant off...
     
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    By week 11 of infantry school, I hadn't seen but 2 women in the whole 11 weeks so far. I went into the DFAC and saw a female OCS candidate. Thought she was the hottest chick I've ever seen. Then I get my 36 hour pass, get to leave and see women. Then I return and I saw the same candidate again. Laughed at myself about how unattractive she actually was.

    The military does some weird things to the body
     
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    Combat pretty.
     
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    Men are going to be aroused by sexual images more than women.

    Men are going to rape and sexually assault others probably 10 ten time more than women will.

    These are just the facts of life. Women going into the military are going to be at just as much risk as if they were part of a men's college football or basketball team.

    No need to waste resources on this. My solution is have fewer women in the military.
     
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